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Rep. Randy Forbes

WASHINGTON: This afternoon, a congressionally chartered panel of prestigious defense experts denounced sequestration as “self-defeating” and a “serious strategic misstep” that “Congress and the President should repeal…immediately.” But will it preach to anyone not already in the choir?

While bipartisan, the National Defense Panel is most heeded by House Republicans. They see it as a valuable alternative to the Obama administration’s Quadrennial Defense Reviews, which House Armed Services Chairman Buck McKeon in particular considers so inadequate as to violate the law. (There were NDPs under Clinton as well, but not during the Bush years). Both the 2010 NDP and this one call for more defense spending in general and a stronger Navy in particular. No wonder, then, McKeon hailed its release and that Republican Rep. Randy Forbes – the House seapower subcommittee chairman and an arch-foe of sequestration – called me this morning to tout the report.

“I don’t know of anywhere where you bring together such a diversity of talent and expertise as you do on this independent panel to review the QDR,” Forbes told me, “You don’t get more [bipartisan] than this panel, [and] I certainly think it gives us a lot of support for positions that we have been advocating.”

What do Democrats think? “Given that they’re endorsing some things most of the Armed Services Committee already agrees with, e.g. repealing sequestration… you’ll see the NDP being whipped out and used as a rhetorical support,” predicted one House Democratic aide. “It will be used by people who already believe in the message — and everyone else will ignore it.”

“It’ll be required reading for people already interested in defense, but I’ll be surprised if it changes anybody’s position in any way,” agreed Maren Leed. Now a senior advisor at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, Leed worked for Democratic Senator Carl Levin (now SASC chairman) before serving in the Pentagon under both Bush and Obama as a non-political appointee. The 2010 NDP “put some recommendations on the table that were pretty large departures from where the Department was,” she recalled. “They were ignored.”

“The chief proponents of the NDP the whole way along definitely have been HASC Republicans; I don’t think it’s been particularly of interest to anyone in the SASC,” said Sam Brannen, a former Obama official also now at CSIS. Nevertheless, “the NDP can say things that are both inconvenient for the administration and inconvenient for congress,” Brannen went on. “It can blow the alarm on things like the actual cost to our national security of the collapse of consensus on defense spending [and] frame some of these grand strategic questions that are now contributing to gridlock inside the armed services committees.”

But even within the House GOP, Leed said skeptically, “some House Republicans will think it’s great. Other House Republicans who are more focused on the debt will say, of course that’s what you get when you ask a bunch of retired generals.”

Of the NDP’s 10 current members, five are in fact retired generals: three Army, one Marine, one Air Force. Two panelists are former top Pentagon officials (both Democrats), two are former Armed Services members (one from each party), and one is a retired ambassador. Interestingly, the panel includes no admirals, yet it departs from service parochialism sufficiently to insist that the Navy needs a larger share of the defense budget, along with the Air Force, while the Army and Marines should simply not be cut below their pre-9/11 strength. Overall, the NDP says, the force should approach  the old standard (arguably never reached in practice) of being able to fight and win two wars simultaneously.

There’s no way to do any of this under sequestration-level budgets, which the panel calls “unacceptable.” Escalating Russian and Chinese aggression, North Korean and Iranian nuclear programs, and sectarian civil war in Syria and Iraq “are among the trends that mandate increased defense funding,” the report declares (emphasis mine).

It’s important that the bipartisan panel agreed there’s a widening gap between global threats and US capabilities to combat them, Forbes told me. “They acknowledge that even if we put the resources there, we may not be able to stop that,” he said, “but if we don’t put the resources there, we don’t stand a chance of stopping that.”

“I think it does have impact, Sydney,” Forbes said, “and here’s where: [It] points out in this review is that the problems that sequestration brings to national defense dwarf any problems that sequestration may bring to other aspects of the budget. And therefore if you can’t get rid of sequestration across the board for everything, you sure by golly better get rid of it as relates to defense.”

Given Democrats’ insistence that any deal to spare defense from sequestration should protect domestic spending as well, there’s hardly a bipartisan consensus on that point, I noted.

“There is not,” Forbes replied, “but sometimes what you have to do is first of all define the problem so you can get consensus.”

“It’s going to be important that we get these findings out [and] do a good job educating our colleagues so we begin to shift this debate,” the congressman continued. “I see that movement taking place, I see it taking place within our conference already, [and] this report will go a long ways to help.”

Comments

  • Don Bacon

    “It’s important that the bipartisan panel agreed there’s a widening gap
    between global threats and US capabilities to combat them, Forbes told
    me.”

    Of course they all agreed. They live off it. But it’s interesting that these “representatives” with their “bipartisan panels”: seem to pay no notice to what their constituents might want. Their concern is only with inside-the-beltway echo-chamber panels. Recent polls however indicate that most Americans are tired of these meaningless wars and want more emphasis upon diplomacy.

    One reason for the poll findings is that Forbes’s “global threats” don’t actually affect Americans, most of whom couldn’t less about Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Syria etc. An important indication of that is the lack of discourse on these scary global (non)threats in election campaigns. They are no-notice, so-what subjects that never come up. There are more important things to worry about, like the failing healthcare system and jobs.

    Many Americans fought and died in Iraq, for example, and for what. A third of the country the US fought to “liberate” has recently been taken over by militants and who cares. The US doesn’t care, it didn’t lift a finger to help Baghdad. Afghanistan? No mention in the press, or by politicians except to say in effect “never leave — keep our battle-hardened warfighters there forever. They don’t know, or don’t care, about the suicide rate apparently, and the many failures in that country.

    “…prestigious defense experts” — you forgot “exalted” ..

    • The Don Bacon Fan Club

      Dear Exalted Don Bacon,
      We have been eager to get an expert opinion from you on the status of the Military Industrial Complex in the context of it’s threat to democracy, in general, and America in particular.
      Could you give us a statement, please, so we can have something to cite as authority? Perhaps 3-4 paragraphs with links to sources?

      • Harold

        I see a military contractor has assigned one of its paid “floggers” to harass Mr. Bacon in hopes of pushing him off the Internet. It’s a shame that Himmler like techniques are used by some.

        • The Don Bacon Fan Club

          What??? We are in no way affiliated with the genocidal, fascist, racist, sexist, country invading to build an oil pipeline, global warming causing republican, Military Industrial Complex!
          Himmler WAS NOT the architect of free speech, I will have you know!

        • Boeing

          Yes, the current appropriation is to unleash 10 million dollars between now and end of the year to counter the unstoppable force that is Don bacon.

    • Don Bacon

      Explaining my snark: I’m not anti-Sydney, I’m anti-expert-panel.

      I do not favor the Hamiltonian view that an elite special cadre should determine the country’s course. The Jeffersonian strategy ought to prevail:

      “Who will govern the governors? There is only one force in the nation that can be depended upon to keep the government pure and the governors honest, and that is the people themselves. They alone, if well informed, are capable of preventing the corruption of power, and of restoring the nation to its rightful course if it should go astray. They alone are the safest depository of the ultimate powers of government.” –T.J.

      What these ‘Hamiltonian elite’ are advancing, disregarding the views of the citizenry, is not in the country’s best interest. On what grounds should we accept that these panels know best? Certainly recent history does not support their position.

      Again, these “representatives” with their “bipartisan panels” seem to pay no notice to what their constituents might want.

      • The Don Bacon Fan Club

        This is excellent!
        Excellent in establishing all we need to create the Baconian Institute For The Advancement OF The Well Informed.
        First we need to establish, specifically, what it is to be well informed. Then we need to establish, specifically, what the ‘Best Interest’ of the country… err citizenry… wait… is the country the same thing as the citizenry??? I mean Jefferson said “They alone…” They is plural, but alone is singular. So, in a constantly changing multicultural pluralistic society, does ‘alone’ apply anymore, or is it just a majority(and only for a specific period)? Your guidence will be needed on this, Don.
        Of all the knowledge and science there is, we need to establish, specifically, which is required to be considered well informed. Then, begin a grass roots movement to promote this (public announcements during breaks while watching American Idol?), and hire lobbyists to lobby our politicians to make being ‘well informed’ a law. People will be ‘well informed’ or they will be heavily fined or denied the right to vote. So, maybe, a minimum of bachelors degree’s in economics, childhood development, history (world or just U.S. ?), sociology, and nursing would be a minimum (include chemistry?).
        Then we need to establish metrics to measure whether, and by how much, the nation is going astray.

        OK, great! This is a good start, Don!

        Give us more ideas, please.

        • Thurly

          Whoa, you must be proud to have such a prodigious and nuanced understanding of . . . whatever that was.

      • Ed Kemp

        DITO and it looks like it’s going to come to that.

    • J_kies

      Don
      Citing TJ for anything given his behaviors regarding personal liberty of his ‘staff’ and the inherent hypocrisy of his writings in that context is ill-advised. Certainly you do need expert panels to understand issues that require expertise; however as you correctly point out those panels should not be staffed by people that personally financially benefit from their recommendations. I have never met current or retired general officer that I would cite as being ‘expert’ in technical or policy issues so the appointment of such people to panels is unwise.

  • Harold

    These greedy Stalinist are out to bankrupt the nation.

  • originalone

    Never ceases to amaze, the ones who haven’t served their country in a Military uniform in a combat situation, seem to consider any military issue, regardless of what it might entail, as long as it doesn’t involve their physical well being.

  • Joseph White

    I personally think it’s time to end sequestration. It’s was a stupid way to try to balance the budget, and something that our president hasn’t followed anyway. I think that we need to get back to an actual budget that includes the cost of whatever wars we are trying to fight.
    I’ve been thinking for a while that the NDAA’s and other emergency funding bills weren’t doing the job.

  • Mike

    As far as ending the military sequester, I think they have a point….. Put simply: Vladimir Putin….. Wasn’t it Teddy Roosevelt, that talked about ” Speak softly, but carry a big stick”….. Perhaps this is NOT the time to be reducing the size of our “stick”, aye?

  • Ineluctable

    Obama and dirty Harry will do nothing that has to include the republicans, they might look too good again. Americans and their security mean nothing to the democrats and Obama.

  • Jeffery Surratt

    I hate all the cry babies over sequester, Live with your budget DOD. I have to live with a 1.5% cola. When are Congress and DOD going to wake up and tell the military industrial complex we can not afford 98 million dollar fighter aircraft. We are only going to pay 60 million. I bet they would find a way to build them. When is the DOD going to ring out the fraud waste and abuse in the way they spend our tax dollars. Same old same old B. S.

    • pissed

      agreed in many ways, bring back the A 10, an EMP will fry all our jets, even with the coatings put on the to resist. And yes, stop the kickbacks. thank you

  • Ed Kemp

    They could cure a few things like cutting back the F-35 order unless there is a pending Space invasion we don’t know about. Keep out positions and pull out of all conflicts we are in now. Proven in the past we get nothing in return. And last but not least, the next thought of donating money to another country should be divided up amongst the homeless shelters throughout the US and it’s territories, keep it at home.

  • JIM16640

    We are now a poor country, little industry base, huge welfare population, everyone maxed out on credit cards and our worthless currency soon to fly to hyper-inflation. So now if we borrow more money from the Chinese…. (assuming they will lend it to us) … the Department of Defense will transform that borrowed money to spend on programs to make us safer? ha ha ha ha.
    Our strategic position: 50 million lowlifes, spread between 3,500 Walmart Stores, averaging 14.000 food stamp customers each, and whose behavior is daily profiled on the Jerry Spring show.
    We need hardcore industry that makes a profit to fund the expensive military component of our economy.