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US, France start formal talks to trade aircraft carrier tech

The French Navy unveiled its newest nuclear-powered aircraft carrier design during the EuroNaval trade show in October.

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Armed Forces Minister Sébastien Lecornu flanked by Emmanuel Chiva, director of the DGA on his right and Pierre Eric Pommelet, CEO of Naval Group, on his left listening to Admiral Pierre Vandier, the French Navy Chief of Staff discuss the PANG design. (Christina Mackenzie/Breaking Defense)

SEA AIR SPACE 2023 — The US Navy has opened a foreign military sales case with its French counterpart to potentially facilitate the sale of two key advanced systems used onboard Ford-class aircraft carriers, according to the officer overseeing the American ships.

The two systems are the electromagnetic aircraft launch system and the advanced arresting gear, both produced by General Atomics. EMALs and AAG are integral to getting planes off deck and back safely more frequently. That tempo, known as sortie generation rate, is one of the most important metrics for a carrier.

“There is an active case for the French to potentially procure EMALS and AAG for their next aircraft carrier. That case is managed mostly by [Naval Air Systems Command],” Capt. Brian Metcalf, the program executive officer for aircraft carriers, said on Tuesday during the Sea Air Space exposition. “On my side of it, I help NAVAIR and the French Navy on the ship integration of that system. How will it get built into the aircraft carrier?”

During EuroNaval 2022 in October the French unveiled its new nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, designed by France’s Naval Group and dubbed the Porte Avion Nouvelle Génération, or PANG. The ship will be 82,673 tons, 1,017 feet long and 279 feet at the widest point of the carrier deck.

A French Armed Forces official told Breaking Defense during the European show that the ship’s design was made with interoperability with the United States in mind. Since France lacks a manufacturer capable of producing the catapults and arrestors used on Ford, it will be critical that they be US-made and sold through the foreign military sales process.

That process, to the chagrin of many Pentagon officials past and present, is a long one and culminates with necessary green lights from the Defense Security Cooperation Agency, the Pentagon organization charged with overseeing foreign arms sales, the State Department and, of course, lawmakers.

It’s unlikely any of them would block a close ally, such as France, from receiving critical components for its carrier, but it doesn’t mean the process can be short-circuited.

In the meantime, Metcalf, the US Navy officer overseeing the Ford-class program, said French sailors will likely have opportunities to train onboard the American warship while the PANG takes shape.

“We’ve got exchange programs that have officers and … one of the conversations of topics recently was getting more French sailors some onboard experience on Ford. That’ll happen probably as a natural progression of our allied relationship with that,” said Metcalf.

PHOTOS: Sea-Air-Space 2023

PHOTOS: Sea-Air-Space 2023

Chesty XVI, the official mascot of the US Marine Corps, took a stroll through the Sea Air Space show floor. His presence raised several questions, among them “who is a good dog,” and “is it you? Are you the good dog?” (Aaron Mehta/Breaking Defense)
A Saildrone floats above the show floor at Sea Air Space 2023. Saildrone has become a common tool in the CENTCOM region, and was infamously kidnapped by Iranian forces in 2022. (Aaron Mehta/Breaking Defense)
AeroVironment’s Switchblade 600 bares its teeth at Sea Air Space. The loitering munition has gotten real-world practice during the Ukraine conflict, as a number of the weapons have been sent from the US to Kyiv. (Aaron Mehta/Breaking Defense)
The show floor had a steady stream of conference attendees moving to and fro at National Harbor. (Aaron Mehta/Breaking Defense)
A model of the Kawasaki C-2 transport aircraft is seen on the Sea Air Space 2023 show floor. (Aaron Mehta/Breaking Defense)
A model of the Kawasaki P-1 Maritime Patrol Aircraft is seen on the Sea Air Space 2023 show floor. (Aaron Mehta/Breaking Defense)
The largest international pavilion came from the Australian government, which took up a huge chunk of the back of the show floor at Sea Air Space 2023. The event occurs just weeks after details of the new AUKUS submarine deal were announced, tying the US and Aussie navies together as never before. (Aaron Mehta/Breaking Defense)
A model aircraft carrier at Sea Air Space 2023 features General Atomics-made aircraft launch system. (Aaron Mehta / Breaking Defense)
At Sea Air Space 2023, defense giant Northrop Grumman shows off some maritime-centric missiles. (Aaron Mehta / Breaking Defense)
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Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Mike Gilday speaks during a panel comprised of himself, Commandant of the Marine Corps Gen. David H. Berger, Commandant of the Coast Guard Adm. Linda Fagan, and Rear Adm. (Ret.) Ann Phillips during the 2023 Sea-Air-Space Exposition held at the Gaylord National Resort and Convention Center, April 3. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Michael B. Zingaro/Released)
Israel's IAI used a model of a ship to demonstrate it's maritime uncrewed system capabilities at Sea Air Space 2023. (Aaron Mehta / Breaking Defense)
A panel of military officials speak on the Future of Warfighting at the Sea-Air-Space 2023 Exposition, held at the Gaylord Convention Center, National Harbor, Maryland, on April 3, 2023. (Photo by Maj. Guster Cunningham III via DVIDS)
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A model of a Bell naval ship-to-shore connector hoverboat sits on display at Sea Air Space 2023. (Aaron Mehta / Breaking Defense)
A Raytheon-made Tomahawk missile hangs on display at Sea Air Space 2023. (Aaron Mehta / Breaking Defense)
A full-sized version of BAE's Amphibious Combat Vehicle rolled onto the show floor for Sea Air Space 2023. (Aaron Mehta / Breaking Defense)
Boeing's Integrator VTOL system lingers above spectators at the defense giant's booth at Sea Air Space 2023. (Aaron Mehta / Breaking Defense)
A model of the Rolls-Royce AE 1107 engine on the Sea Air Space 2023 show floor. The engine is the powerplant for the MV-22, CV-22 and CMV-22 Osprey variants, as well as the engine of choice for the Bell Textron V-280 Valor tiltrotor, which in December won the Army’s Future Long-Range Assault Aircraft (FLRAA) competition to be the successor to the aging UH-60 Black Hawk. (Aaron Mehta / Breaking Defense)
L3Harris shows off a model of its Navigation Technology Satellite – 3 (NTS-3) satellite at Sea Air Space 2023. Funded through the Air Force Research Laboratory, NTS-3 is designed to test new positioning, timing and navigation (PNT) technologies. (Aaron Mehta / Breaking Defense)
A model by Israeli Aerospace Industries at Sea Air Space 2023 shows an uncrewed system coming in for a landing on a ship. (Aaron Mehta / Breaking Defense)