Air Warfare

Embraer, SNC pushing A-29 for counter-drone mission

"You don't need a bespoke F-35 at eleventy billion dollars an hour, right? You can do this in a very cost-effective way,” Ray Fitzgerald, senior vice president for strategy at SNC, told Breaking Defense.

Frederico Lemos of Embraer and Ray Fitzgerald of SNC are seen at the Embraer booth at the AFA Show in Oxen Hill, Maryland, on September 22, 2025. (Embraer)

AFA 2025 — Embraer and Sierra Nevada Corp. are eyeing a new mission set for the A-29 Super Tucano, pitching the turboprop as an option for the growing counter-unmanned aerial system (cUAS) market.

The benefit, executives from the two firms told Breaking Defense, comes down to a slower-moving jet with a low cost-per-hour to operate — more in line with the speed and cost of a drone.

“Lots of weapons, long loiter time, cost effective to take care of that drone. You don’t need a bespoke F-35 at eleventy billion dollars an hour, right? You can do this in a very cost effective way,” said Ray Fitzgerald, senior vice president for strategy at SNC.

Embraer Defense’s Chief Commercial Officer, Frederico Lemos, highlighted the kind of package an A-29 can carry as a good match for the cUAS mission, whether kinetic or non-kinetic options.

“Matching speeds, excellent connectivity. You can receive a lot of intel to address the threat with the right type of platform,” he said. “You have the machine gun, cannon, you have the rockets, you have the sensor, the right sensor, you have the communications and networking with A-29.”

Asked whether the companies were pushing the cUAS mission or it was something countries approached them about, Fitzgerald said it was “a little bit of both.”

“We do present it, but a lot of people are calling going, hey, I don’t need to put my F-16 or F-18 up against it, or F-35 God forbid, right,” Fitzgerald said. “The dollars per hour those don’t make sense.”

The two men were talking Monday at the annual Air and Space Forces Associations conference outside Washington. They also announced a new deal where SNC is buying an A-29 from Embraer in advance of an expected Foreign Military Sales case that will be announced in the future.

Getting that plane underway means the customer can get ahead of maintenance, pilot training and systems integration — in what Lemos said could cut the timeline for the future customer down by a full year. The A-29 will be produced at the two firms’ joint facility in Jacksonville, Fla., which has been operating at low production levels in recent years. A year ago, Embraer executives warned Breaking Defense of a looming “production gap” at the plant.

However, this week Lemos said the company is “very positive” about future orders out of Jacksonville.

“We are seeing a strong demand from the market, addressing both past challenges in terms of operations and upcoming challenges,” Lemos said. “We see the counter-UAS kind of mission and how relevant the A-29 can also be for this kind of mission”

PHOTOS: AFA 2025

PHOTOS: AFA 2025

Space Force Chief of Space Operations Gen. B. Chance Saltzman delivers his keynote address, Sept. 23, 2025. (Jud McCrehin/Air & Space Forces Association)
Jay Raymond (left), former Space Force chief of space operations, and David Thompson, former vice chief of space operations, speak on a panel moderated by Nina Armagno, former Space Force staff director, Sept. 23, 2025. (Jud McCrehin/Air & Space Forces Association)
Griffon Aerospace displays its Valiant vertical takeoff-and-landing drone, designed for field reconnaissance on the go, Sept. 23, 2025. (Aaron Mehta/Breaking Defense)
Trac9 shows its Advanced Deployable Aircraft Mobile System, a portable hangar, Sept. 23, 2025. (Aaron Mehta/Breaking Defense)
A model of Saab-Boeing's T-7 Red Hawk jet trainer, Sept. 23, 2025. (Daniel Woolfolk/Breaking Defense)
A 1/6th-size model of the Hermeus supersonic jet sits below a live feed of the company's production line in Atlanta, Ga., Sept. 23, 2025. (Aaron Mehta/Breaking Defense)
Shield AI's V-BAT vertical takeoff-and-landing drone, sits on display, Sept. 23, 2025. (Daniel Woolfolk/Breaking Defense)
The Air Force Research Laboratory displays a missile designed under its "Angry Tortoise" program, a partnership with Ursa Major, that looks to develop hypersonic missiles that can be deployed en masse for millions of dollars less than more traditional munitions, Sept. 22, 2025. (Rachel Cohen/Breaking Defense)
Anduril’s YFQ-44A Fury drone, an entrant in the Collaborative Combat Aircraft drone wingman program, sits on display, Sept. 22, 2025. (Daniel Woolfolk/Breaking Defense)
General Atomics’ YFQ-42A, another CCA entrant, sits on display, Sept. 22, 2025. (Rachel Cohen/Breaking Defense)
JetCat shows several small jet engines designed to power munitions or kamikaze drones at a fraction of the cost of larger engines, Sept. 22, 2025. (Rachel Cohen/Breaking Defense)
Sierra Nevada Corp.’s Battery Revolving Adaptive Weapons Launcher (BRAWLR), a reconfigurable counter-drone system in use by at least one classified foreign customer, makes its defense trade show debut, Sept. 22, 2025. (Rachel Cohen/Breaking Defense)
Air Force Undersecretary Matt Lohmeier visits the Northrop Grumman booth, where the Stand-In Attack Weapon and Hypersonic Cruise Missile are on display, Sept. 22, 2025. (Rachel Cohen/Breaking Defense)
The Tactical Combat Training System Increment II connects live aircraft to a simulator in training, allowing remote troops to practice in real-world conditions. (Rachel Cohen/Breaking Defense)

Could you fly Embraer’s C-390? (Daniel Woolfolk/Breaking Defense)

Embraer aims to convince the Air Force that its C-390, shown in miniature on Sept. 24, 2025, could be a boon to the service’s airlift fleet. (Daniel Woolfolk/Breaking Defense)
J.P. Nauseef, president and chief executive officer of JobsOhio speaks during ASC, Sept. 24, 2025. (Jud McCrehin/Air & Space Forces Association)
Attendees traverse the show floor on the final day of the conference, Sept. 24, 2025. (Daniel Woolfolk/Breaking Defense)
Attendees mill about near the main show floor doors at the Gaylord National Resort & Convention Center, Oxon Hill, Md., Sept. 24, 2025. (Daniel Woolfolk/Breaking Defense)
RTX shows off munitions at its booth on the show floor, Sept. 22, 2025. (Rachel Cohen/Breaking Defense)