Missileers turning the key at Minot

UPDATED: Malmstrom Commander Resigns; Two Senior Officers, 7 Others Fired

CORRECTED Name Of Head of Air Force Global Strike Command 8:02 pm

PENTAGON: The Air Force has fired two senior officers and seven other commanders as part of its “unprecedented” bid to fix the troubled nuclear missile force and accepted the voluntary resignation of the commander of the Malmstrom Air Force Base missile wing.

Col. Robert Stanley resigned Malmstrom missile command

Col. Robert Stanley, who voluntarily resigned his command of the Malmstron Air Force Base missile wing.

Air Force Secretary Deborah Lee James pledged to try and reverse the widespread perception among missileers that the senior leadership of the Air Force and the Pentagon no longer regard their mission as one of the most important in the US military. She told me she would bring “persistent focus, persistent leadership” to the task and said she would regularly visit the three nuclear missile wings and meet with airmen and their commanders. A key part of that effort will be to destroy what she has called a “climate of fear” among the missile crews.

Some 100 missile officers were embroiled in the scandal, which arose because officers at Montana’s Malmstrom Air Force Base cheated on a nuclear proficiency test, sharing the answers via cell phone. The cheating was led by a ring of four officers, three of whom are also under investigation for drug use, Lt. Gen. Stephen Wilson, head of Air Force Global Strike Command, said during today’s press conference. The Air Force investigation, led by Lt. Gen. James Holmes,  found 79 officers engaged in unacceptable behavior; 28 sent and received test answers; four sent answers; nine asked for and got test answers; 30 received test information; three asked for it but didn’t get it; five officers knew about the cheating and did not report it.

The cheating that prompted the investigation was believed originally to have occurred in August but Lewis said today that the ring had begun sharing answers as early as November 2011 and it continued until November 2013.

While James and Lewis had little nice to say about those who broke the rules, Col. Stanley was treated very differently. He has been nominated for promotion to brigadier general and Gen. Lewis went out of his way to tell the world that: “Everybody who knows Col. Stanley would say he has served with great distinction.”

His colleague, Col. Mark Schuler, the 341st Operations Group commander, was fired from his job but will remain with the Air Force, at least for now.

I’ve skimmed through the investigation but have to come back and comb through it to see if they took to heart recommendations made by our own Bob Butterworth (member of the Breaking Defense Board of Contributors and former chief for strategic planning, policy and doctrine at Air Force Space Command) to improve the care, feeding and strategic focus of the missile crews. I can confirm that several of the most senior leaders of the Air Force have read it and shared it with others.

 

 

 

Comments

  • Former Missileer

    how do you increase use of simulators that are already being utilized 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week?

    • majorg1000

      Each base has two. They are split between the old style capsules and the upgraded ones. They are not interchangeable for training. One way would be to upgrade all of the capules to the most recent modifications, and have all training be cohesive. Another way is to add more MPTs. Both of these things cost money; something that getting the Tea Party and GOP to spend would be like pulling teeth.

    • rob gross saint

      do not work on sunday. remembering the fourth day of the week aas the 4th. commandment.

  • Hew Packard

    Buy more Missile Procedural Trainers (MPTs) for a combat crew force that deserves adequate and practical training programs. A first class crew force requires first class training and continuing to underfund training devices is no longer acceptable. Bob Butterworth had it exactly right.

  • ODWms

    Decrease per-use times?

  • Sean Beam

    No amount of training is going to overcome slack leadership and self gratifying personnel

    • 10579

      read: current administration no leadership and no balls.

      • majorg1000

        Apparently, either do you Mr. 10579.

  • Gary Church

    That is why Officers get paid the big bucks; if you cannot earn that respect and fail to accomplish what you are commissioned to then you get sent on your way. Unfortunately I have seen many senior enlisted a similar standard did not seem to apply to and were kept in the service while far more capable junior enlisted had to leave. Whenever there is a reduction in force the retired-on-active-duty E-9′s are the last ones to go because of the excuse that their experience is so valuable. B.S. They should reduce from the top down first and then start from the bottom up. I saw many officers get fired while I was in the service. Some were just plain idiots and how they got a commission was a mystery. Others could not keep off the bottle or away from women they were not married to or married to someone else. Some of them seemed alright but above them decided they did not like them and did them dirty. But except for a few of them they were nothing special- even though most thought they were. These guys with their fingers on the button need to be something special. They should be the most carefully selected and fired at the first red flag.

    • gray_eagle

      The officer’s corps in all services are highly capable and intelligent. Same for the enlisted. You cannot judge all based upon the shortcomings of the few. It is a shame how enlisted and officers are bickering here.

    • John Mead

      You seem to have a problem with Sergeants Major. What did you exit the military as?

  • US citizen

    The US Air Force fires but the general at Ft. Bragg goes free.?

    • FLAMBE27

      It began way back with Dick Cheney. The accidental jerk who had so many defements to protect him from “active duty.” Another idiot had a scene with a naked companion at a Fountain in DC .. and so .. Cheney was hauled up as Sec of Defense with absolutely no qualification whatever .. so given he had no ‘cajones’, he fired an Air Force Chief of Staff .. and ever since the collection following with the same “deficits” consistently endeavored to so demean any occupant of the position UNLESS they were the bully bunch to savage those of THE ARMED FORCES .. nothing like BIG BULLY FEMALES!!

  • Darlene Thorne

    Wow, if you are going to cheat…you are already a lazy jerk but…on something that effects the lives of millions? really?.

  • boccagalupe

    Will someone please tell, “who is the Bob Butterworth mentioned in the article as well as the comments.

    • http://www.breakingdefense.com/ Colin Clark

      Bob is a member of the Breaking Defense Board of Contributors and owner of a company called Aries Analytics. He’s handled many of the most sensitive nuclear and intelligence secrets America possesses as a senior staff member at both the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

  • paulpnjr

    Getting “fired” in the military means little. People are just reassigned to another base or job and life goes on. In the civilian world, firing is totally different…you leave the company and find employment elsewhere. As a career Air Force officer, I’ve seen many “firings” and these folks later got promoted.

    • Marine8541

      You are correct as in the US military it does mean little……The term actually does not exist. Let’s say we actually apply fired to the military it would actually be a DISCHARGE and less than honorable. This looks no more than a way to make it look like something was done that looked to be substantial yet not and a play on words.

      • majorg1000

        They haven’t yet punished those who are accused of cheating and /or using drugs.

    • Jim

      Of course, if they’d been enllisted people, they’d be shipped to a stockade, given hard labor and dishonorable discharges. It’s too bad that enlisted people are treated so shabbily–especially wounded ones.

    • ric bon

      paulpnjr,
      You are absolutely correct, Officers. Enlisted do jail time…

      • gray_eagle

        Punishment often depends upon the rank of the individual. A specific deed may get an enlisted courts-martialed and will be just as career ending to an officer……albeit dished out differently.

  • ipsd48

    celebrate diversity, attack morality
    And then act surprised when critical personnel start cheating? REALLY???

  • Roger Bartlett

    Bring back Strategic Air Command. Very strict and the same rules applied the same way to everyone from the 4 star on down. They continuously conducted unannounced inspections where failure had severe consequences. They left zero doubt that the mission was the priority.

    • boccagalupe

      Pal; this bunch is “The Strategic Air Command” ….seems it has deteriorated a bit. Nothing like Curtis LeMay, and days of old. The O corps was deteriorating back in the middle 60s. Lost many EM due to it. Especially missileers.

    • Steve

      Roger:
      Right ON! I was there when Curtis Le May was SAC commanding general.
      We had a mission and the rest of the stupid Shit was not even there! We stood ready to do our Job! What happened to PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH

      • Chris Braden

        or “Peace if Our Profession”. I still have old-issue USAF fatigues with
        subdued SAC patches and earlier pairs with regular SAC patches. Wouldn’t let go of them for the world. Served at Grand Forks ’74-’77, March ’68-’69, Loring ’70-’73 and several overseas locations.

    • Truth bomb

      Spare us the SAC crap. In some instances you have 1 person doing a job that a full shop did back in the 60′s. The ops tempo is significantly higher now, too. There are good people that work long hours to make sure the job is done right, but they never talk about that. I don’t discount what people had to deal with back in the day, but you are comparing what you did then when you had new equipment, more personnel and more money to work with to what people have today, which is a more capable weapon system but less money, people, poor work conditions, and fewer resources. You can’t compare.

      • Roger Bartlett

        When it comes to competence in the handling and safety of nuclear weapons you’d better be able to compare. Standards for this do not change no matter what excuses you might present.

        • majorg1000

          Standards may not change, but manning does. So does the perceived mission the men and women of our nuclear deterrent are asked to perform. The Mission as I knew it during the Cold War, no longer exists. There are no evil Commies wating to take over our nation with their 5 year plans…There isn’t even a Bear to poke.

  • Roger Bartlett

    Anyone else remember the armored fist holding a set of male testicles with the caption: “To err is human, to forgive is not SAC policy.”

    • majorg1000

      My patch was the one you describe with the words “The Hell We Don’t” under it. There was another of the SAC fist holding a turnip with blood dripping from it. It said: “The Hell We Can’t”.

    • Flambe27

      Really .. nothing like a bunch of “Dufous” to insult the OFFICER CORPS .. as I recall .. Vietnam .. in the 60′s, US AIR FORCE GEN CURTIS LE MAY was a HERO to all forces .. HE WAS THE STRENGTH BEHIND THE DEVELOPMENT AND PERFORMANCE OF THE STRATEGIC AIR COMMAND, “PEACE THROUGH DETERRENCE.” 24 X 7 AIR AND GROUND ALERTS, BOMBERS AND REFUELERS TO BE AIRBORNE WITHIN 15 MINUTES; “practice missions,” BASE ALERT CREWS RESIDIING IN “BULLPENS” ON TARMACS 24 X 7, AND READY TO GO! In those days, SAC had a policy that “TO ERR IS HUMAN; SAC POLICY DOES NOT FORGIVE! STOUT HEARTED MEN AND WOMEN .. and the FAMILIES .. those never given respect due to all they did to support THE MISSIONS!

  • dmm1047

    With no bombers on alert that I can see, you bet these missiles are important. Other than subs, They’re all we have that are ready to go.

  • majorg1000

    It should be LtGen Stephan Wilson, not Lewis,

    • http://www.breakingdefense.com/ Colin Clark

      You are absolutely right. My brain flipped a bit. Apologies. It’s fixed.

      • majorg1000

        No problem. You do great work and great reporting. Thank you.

    • majorg1000

      *Stephen*, sorry, typo

  • hatborojerry

    I remember Lemay and SAC.Inspections anytime of the 24 hour day.Fail and your ass was grass.I have the same negative thoughts about our military leadership as I do about our DC politicians.Compare how many GeneraLs and Admirals we have compared to when we fought the Germans and the Japs ,We won with a Army and a Navy whose average education was the 8th grade.Have we fought a REAL enemy since we went to the Department of Defence.Have we won anyb major wqr since 1947.I’llgo with the old Army and Navy depatrments,with military decisions made by the military with a yes or no from the president.Leave the military handle the military.How many of the present have had military expereance?Better yet,how many have children in the military.McCain is a dinasour,a snot nose in high school and a snot nose at the 0Academy.Anyone else would of been put in charge of a sea goiing tug not sent to
    flight school.remember he came back,58000 did not.can anyone tell me where macnamara is buried?

    • majorg1000

      I was in SAC. This isn’t the old Air Force, Army Air Forces, or the Army Air Corps. Wars are no longer fought by sending more of our young men in uniform than they have young men in uniform. They don’t even wear uniforms.
      Get over your bitterness, you are pising into a strong wind. McCain came home. So what? I wonder if death wouldn’t have been preferable to what he endured. The missileers today do not have the same mission that I had on missile crew during the Cold War, yet we expect them to believe they are more than glorified babysitters of our nuclear stockpile. What you have written is nothing more than a self gratifying rant based upon nothing in reality.

    • Oregon_Longhorn

      A lot of us wouldn’t be here if JFK had followed Lemay’s insistance that the US invade Cuba. The Russians on the ground would have used tactical nukes we didn’t know they had on our invading troops on the beach and we would have responded in kind at the Russians and a full scale exchange of nukes would have followed.
      The one thing that has to change is the perception that the missileer job is a career ending assignment with little chance of promotion up the line.

  • majorg1000

    I am a former USAF Missileer. I believe the senior leadership have placed the blame squarely where it should be placed. Those that cheated and were caught will be dealt with severely, as in Dismissal from the USAF. Those who didn’t cheat, but were otherwise caught up in the scandal will lose their positions, and will (if eligible) be allowed to retire on time. They will probably not see any further promotions. Colonel Stanley has chosen to retire rather than remain in the USAF. he had been selected for 07. That promotion was probably redlined and influenced his decision. His retirement sends a strong and powerful message about charactor and integrity.
    The Air Force cannot afford to eliminate all of their corporate knowledge because some junior officers decided to game the system and compromise their integrity.
    The message has been sent, and I can guarantee you, it has been received loud and clear by every other man and woman who deals with our ICBMs.

    • Harris Cal

      I retired from the R&D side of the Navy in 1980 but remained as a civilian scientist (engineering psycholgist) prior to founding MSA, Inc. (www.msaincorp.com). My daughter currently runs the show for me. We support Redstone’s ballistic missile development. I really appreciate the individuals that were willing to take a commission in any of the services and take responsibility and be accountable.
      My concern is public opinion against our exemplary young men and women that are doing far more than the average citizen knows and at great sacrafice. I salute you and all of my “shipmates” and comrades that have gone in harms way. Cal

      • majorg1000

        Awesome Cal. My hat is off to you.

      • Joe Garcia

        Yopu sound as if this people should be let off the hook.

      • G C

        there are several million people in our country who do GREAT things fo r the protection and defense of our country.
        It is only fair to compliment the TAX PAYERS who pay their salaries, benefits, travel and education also.

        • John Mead

          You don’t think that service members pay taxes? Just remember, to those that never wore a uniform, or heard a bullet zip by their head, the simple act of antying up taxes doesn’t come close to doing something great. All pay taxes without any concious thought. But we do appreciate those on the homefront who stand behind us with their love and support.

    • Jim

      Lucky for them that they’re officers. If they’d been enlisted personnel, they’d have been shipped to the stockades, assigned hard labor and given dishonorable discharges.

      • majorg1000

        You think the officers who were caught cheating won’t be dismissed? They can be found criminally liable for conduct unbecoming an officer under the UCMJ. The final word has not been passed down on them yet.

      • TallTexan2

        Ridiculous … no one is sent to do hard time for cheating on a test. Wise up.

      • FallenHeros

        That too depends on rank, it takes an act of Congress most of the time for things such as this for enlisted the rank of E-7 and above.

    • DF

      If you want to deter this from happening again, take away their pensions that we are paying for.

      • majorg1000

        You have to have some legal recourse for doing that. As far as I can tell no crimes were committed, no laws were broken by those that were fired. Those who actually did cheat were junior officers far from having the 20 years required for retirement. They will not get 20 years time in service as most will be dismissed.
        You go tell the guy who has worked diligently, honorably and without compromising himself for 20+ years that even though HE did nothing wrong, you are going to take away HIS pension because someone below him screwed up. That he resigned and won’t be getting the promotion to General that he was selected for, seems like pretty good punishment to me, and one that sends the right message.

        • ouel

          majorg1000, all your comments are spot on. I spent 22 years in AF and another 18 as a DoD civilian. Those who need to pay for their actions…will. And Col Stanley will retire with honor.

          • majorg1000

            Thank you ouel.

    • Jerry

      majorg1000, you mention corporate knowledge and that the Air Force can’t afford to eliminate it, but aren’t we (all military) an institution? I’ve seen this reference many times at the senior levels of leadership and unfortunately over the past 20 years it has filtered down into the enlisted ranks. Worst of all, the corporate methodology never seems to work in the long run and ends up placing the wrong people in the wrong positions of leadership. Clearly displayed here by placing people lacking the Core Values of the USAF in a key roll in the defense of our nation.

      • majorg1000

        I believe the issue of wrong people in wrong positions of leadership has been brought to SECAF’s attention and is one of the many issues that will be addressed.

    • Larry Wendt

      Colonel Stanley had NOTHING to do with the cheating. It just happened on his watch. A repremand is ALL that he should receive for not finding out what was going on and stopping it.

      • majorg1000

        My guess is that a Reprimand and being removed as Wing CC were all he was going to be punished with. he may also have had his promotion to Brigadier General redlined. He chose to retire and make that a strong statement about the inequalities within the system. If he hadn’t retired, he would have been sent to some back office in the Pentagon until he was forced out. He would have done no one, including himself any good in some “make work” position. He decided to go out with a bang, instead of a whimper…and in doing so sent an excellent message of what integrity really is.

    • Dave

      What the Air Force cannot (continue) to allow is a force that believes, and acts, like the rules only apply when they are caught. Elimination MUST be based on a standard, not “what the Air Force can afford” – the strategic deterent force of the ICBMs will remain without those responsible. The longest lasting impact will be on those remaining – based on the response of leadership to this GROSS lack of integrity.

  • Willie

    The men under this officer are a direct refection of this Col. He should have been relieved of his command also. But most of the time officer are not disciplined.
    All politics, his commander, along with other officers, likes to think all offices can do no wrong.

  • JoyBall

    They got canned, thrown out. Good! Throw ‘em out! Throw ‘em high and throw ‘em far.

  • pgclark

    Why is anyone surprised…..this is YOUR government and YOUR money….this is old news………too old

  • Wayne

    Anyone notice an alarming trend here. The military command structure and NCO corps is getting attacked from multiple venues. Two command generals in Afghanistan relieved after an IG exononerated them and the Pentagon redirected a second inspection that found them derelect of duty and relieved. The current airborne general affair, General Petreus, multiple general officers on trial for affairs, the Eglin sex allegations to recruits, academy cheating scandals, General William Ward, Cdr of Africom demoted quietly and retired for corruption and his successor, General Carter Ham recalled to DC to quietly resign after Benghazi. Is this all a laxness of standards that our modern age has brought Or rather is it that a nominally conservative institution, the military, constitutes a fair target environment since it is not part of the crony constituency of the current administration.

    Or is it both?

    As predujicial as our media is both ways, we’ll prolly never know the truth. One thing seems certain. With surveillance in the administrations hip pocket, it sure would be easy to reveal the dirt on your political and military rivals.

    • jecjmc

      Perhaps you are currently living in your Mother’s basement, or you lack the ability to learn from history. Nixon had the plumbers…who investigated US Senators and common cilizens. Reagan walked away when 241 US Marines were killed in Lebannon.This is not a right or left issue, and neither party has control over the CIA – Who may have spyied on Congress and the NSA who has destroyed the internet with it’s over the top recording of the World’s ditigal conversations

  • BRANDYBYALLBTCH

    I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR WHEN I SAY HOW PATHETIC IT IS THAT THESE MEN COULDN’T CUT IT, SO THEY CHEATED. IN NO WAY IS THIS ACCEPTABLE, HOW COULD IT BE? CHEATING IS CHEATING, GET OUT OF THE WAY AND LET OTHERS DO YOUR JOB FOR YOU IF YOU CAN’T CUT IT. AS FOR THOSE WHO SAY THE MILITARY SIMPLY MOVES THEM OR DEMOTES THEM, FINE AS LONG AS THEY’RE SCRUBBING DISHPLATES I DON’T CARE, BUT IF THEY’RE PROMOTED LATER? FK DAT HELL NO…AIR FORCE IS SOFT, THEY ALL DESERVE TO BE KICKED OUT PERMANENTLY, ALL OF THEM BUT THE FIVE WHO DIDN’T CHEAT. THOSE WHO KNEW BUT DIDN’T CHEAT, I SAY THEY NEED TO BE WHIPPED BOYS, SUPPOSED TO COME FORWARD, THIS IS B.S.!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Flambe27

      Yo Brandy. Stow away the stuff. You are out of it and fortunately you can hide behind your pseudo .. what a jerk!! How is your job at the Santitation firm working out?

  • Ben

    This is an example of politicians and their appointees attempting to decimate US nuclear security. What they aren’t telling you is what this “cheating” had nothing to do with missile operations or readiness, but pecking-order BS. The military needs to take this country back from the misguided socialist/enemy agenda involving folks who have never worked a day in their lives, nor served their country.

    • majorg1000

      “The military needs to take this country back…?” The military never had this country. There is a reason the President is a civilian, and will never be an active duty military member. The Constitution of the United States covers all of this within it’s text. You should become familiar with it.
      And yeah, I served. I am a retired USAF officer and a veteran of two wars.

      • Ben

        How about President Eisenhower? He was probably the best president this nation ever had, with both military and politcial experience. Yes, our military assets are being sqaundered in proxy wars, which we (military) can argue we win, by putting out small and large fires, but the public does not perceive that. The founding fathers were brilliant, but couldn’t have percieved of the situations we face today. If you want to play by the Queensbury rules, prepare to lose. Have a good evening.

        • majorg1000

          President Eisenhower was a civilian when he was elected president. So was Washington, Jackson, Grant, and T.Roosevelt. Many other Presidents have had non-career military experience, like Truman, Kennedy, Ford, Carter, Bush.
          But when they were elected to the presidency, they were civilians. FDR had no military experience whatsoever, either did Lincon, yet they guided us through the greatest crises our nation has faced. I am not playing by the “Queensbury rules”, I am playing by the Constitution of the US. Like I said, you should become familar with it. I won’t lose. Have a good evening.

          • Ben

            Major–Correct, but they had military discipline, something the other guys, like th current one, do not. I am not comparing the US Constitution to the Queensbury Rules. I am saying we need to adapt. If you go with “your” play-book, how can you be sure of a win?

          • Majorg1000

            My playbook has been victorious for over 230 years. I’ll stick with mine and not worry about sedition or treason.

          • Ben

            Major–I like you, but study military history… the only real reason we have been victorious for 230 years is due to large oceans being between us and our advesaries. If foreinstance, Japan had continued it’s Dec 7th attack to bases on the Mainland, we would have been set back. If US Intel Ops didn’t stop Germany (and others) from furthering their efforts with the bomb, we’d be speaking German or Russian or Chinese, today. We must do what we have to to keep our countrymen safe. God Bless America.

          • majorg1000

            Japan didn’t have the forces to continue their attack on the US mainlaind. Their entire strategy was to deal the US a crippling blow and have us sue for peace so they could expand the Far East Co-Prosperity Sphere. They failed to get our carriers and that made all the difference. Then they made inexcusable mistakes at Coral Sea and Midway and basically lost their Navy.
            The Germans were not pursuing the A-Bomb as feverously as once thought. In fact their foray into the Soviet Union cost them everything as it gave the US time to enter the war and succeed in ramping up our war production.
            Having a Master’s Degree in US Military History has helped me form my opinions on why things have happened in the past and why they happen today. We do have to keep our countrymen safe. I can agree with that. But it isn’t just the charge of the military to do that. It is up to all of us, military and civilian alike.
            We aren’t going to keep ANYONE safe by advocating the overthrow of a administation you may not like.

          • Ben

            Major–I am not advocating the overthrow of the administration–I’m just the bringer of the bad news. It’s out there. The Feds know about it. I agree with almost everything you said. Except, that Japan “did” have the force strength to attack the United States Mainland, but elected it was too large of an endeavor, and they could not be assured of the supply line. I learned this from people who built the Zero. When they failed to get the aircraft carriers at Pearl, they lost WW2. Yes, Coral Sea, Midway, Batan, were disasters for them. The loss of forces, and oil supply, was also a major contributing factor. More than history discloses, the Germans were very interested in nuclear weapons, but Herman Goering, and Adolph, didn’t think the endeavor was worth it, compared to investing in tanks, planes, subs. They didn’t think anything would come of it, before the war would be long over. They called all the nuclear physicists by a racial epithet, so those guys left the country.

          • majorg1000

            Fair enough. We can leave it at that.
            If you get some time, you may want to read the book “Those angry Days” By Lynne Olsen. It doesn’t have much to do with what we have discussed here, but rather the fight between the Isolationists and Interventionalists prior to Pearl Harbor. As well versed as you seem to be in history, you will find it enjoyable. I did, and brought out many things of which I was unaware.

          • Ben

            Fair enough. We are on the same side. I will check out “Those Angry Days.” your description of it sounds interesting. Best wishes, from Hawaii, Ben

          • piasapau

            old Harry S. Truman was a WWI soldier, kennedy was WWII navy, ford was navy, carter went to naval academy but can’t call him a sailor, bush 2 was fighter pilot, FDR was a socialist, and Lincoln was a traitor, so much for yor information

          • majorg1000

            Bush 2 was a fighter pilot who couldn’t reamain current and went AWOL. Much like a major portion of his presidency. Carter served aboard Nuclear Submarines. FDR was not a Socialist, and if you believe that Lincoln was a traitor, you have more problems than can be fixed here.

          • 2ND Div Army Veteran

            “Lincoln was a traitor”
            Ahh another southern confederate flag draping hick.
            You lost the war, get over it .
            Redneck filth.

      • Bill S

        COMMANDER IN CHIEF POWERSArticle II Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution, the Commander in Chief clause, states that “[t]he President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States.”

      • 2ND Div Army Veteran

        majorg1000
        Excellent post because the LAST thing we need is the military running the government .

      • FLAMBE27

        Oh way to go, majorg 1000. Given the mess the US is in right now, nationwide and internationally with a clown and crew in charge, with no respect whatever of this once SUPER POWER, Putin kicking sand in the face of Obuma who dared to send an LGBT cotillion to the SOVIET OLYMPICS? How long before the ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITES STATES, and NOT INCIDENTALLY THEIR FAMILIES, PARENTS, SIBLINGS, SPOUSES AND CHILDREN ARE CAUGHT UP?
        THE US CONGRESS AND SENATE IS OWNED AND OPERATED BY PUBLIC EMPLOYEE UNIONS AND POWERFUL CORPORATE INTERESTS SERVED BY THEIR COSTLY LOBBYING INTERESTS.
        GIVEN THE LIES AND MORE OF BY THE OBUMA ADMINISTRATION AND THOSE OF THE ABORTED HEALTH CARE OBJECTIVE OBSCURED BY “THE MEDIA,” THREATENING NATIONWIDE DEVASTATION OF THE MOST VULNERABLE AMONGT US, PERHAPS THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES WILL HAVE NO ALTERNATIVE TO PETITION TO SOME KIND OF INTERNATIONAL PROTECTIVE ASSOCIATION?

  • Disappointed

    Why Is everybody surprised, when the President of the US (Wild Bill) can look into the camera, wag his finger and lie/cheat, why can’t the military. That single act destroyed a lot of moral character and expectation is this country.

    • Gen Isis

      It’s 2014.

      • aschark

        Gen, I didn’t know that moral character was different in the past. The only difference between now and the past, is that lying is allowed now. Benghazi, ACA (if you like your health plan, you can keep it…), positively “no extension on ACA” said less than 2 weeks ago, etc.Where are the 30 survivors of Benghazi? Camp Bastion? What the hell is that? Well, 3 days after Benghazi, 9/14, Camp Bastion, one of the largest airports in the world, the USMC suffered one of the worst losses since the Tet Offensive in Viet Nam, inflicted by the Taliban. You didn’t hear about it. Too close to election.
        Lying and cover ups seem to be acceptable now. Yeah, you’re right Gen, it’s 2014.

        • majorg1000

          Not to put too fine of a point on it, But lying didn’t start with this administation, and it won’t end with this one: “I am not a Crook”; “Read my Lips, no new taxes”; Weapons of Mass Destruction; “This war will be over in a matter of weeks, two months tops”
          “Mission Accopmlished”. Moral charactor pretty much remains the same. There are good, and there are bad. Oh, I forgot one: “I did not have sex with that woman.”

          • DF

            In order to be in politics, you must lie because you cannot have your own values, you must support the values of your party and if you want to get re-elected, you have to satisfy both sides of your constituents to get a majority vote. So depending on who is in the audience, you support their views if they represent the majority vote.

          • aabmh

            No you don’t “have to” it’s a matter of choice. You either love and support your country for the time you are in office or you choose not to and to and you lie, cheat and steal. I would prefer to honor my position and do the right thing while I was in office than to do the wrong thing just to get majority of votes. If I’m out for doing the right thing at least I can live with myself after I’m out. The problem with politicians today is that we give them too much leniency and forgive whatever they do because we’re too lazy to buck that system. If everyone continues to do that when will our problems ever get corrected?

          • Anthony Mcgrath

            Ma jorg – The one you incorrectly forgot was,”I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky”. Lawyer answer. Legally a BJ is not defined as sexual relations. Most people remember it like you, “I did not have sex…”

          • majorg1000

            I stand corrected.

        • pat george

          yack yack yack. Come on, your boring us with the same old blame Obama garbage that always turns out to cost us millions in investigations with out finding anything wrong. And if you want to keep your doctor find out what plan he accepts and get it. IN the mean time whine somewhere else

          • aabmh

            Wow, what an attitude. If all were ignored as you seem to think everything about this president should be we all might as well stick our heads in the sand and accept whatever is dished out, right or wrong. I’d rather see Obama challenged for his wrongs than to be an ostrich and accept his BS. They are our servants not the other way around and we expect more from them than we are getting.

        • Joe Garcia

          thats right ,what about all that lying by Bush and Chaney to get us in the Iraq invasion.

          • John Mead

            What lies? You’re singing the song, but the words don’t jive.

          • aschark

            John, you’ve got Obama’s Administrations Creed: “We never mean a word we say.” It started off as comedian’s one liner, but now it’s an eye-roller

          • aschark

            Joe, you’ve got a point that can’t be challenged. Hillary Clinton and John Kerry voted for the invasion, so aren’t they a part of the invasion? DO some research on who voted for the invasion. The Congressmen had the same info as the White House. If you ask me, Iraq’s armament was secretly moved to Lybia, which lead up to the murders in Benghazi, so don’t ask me ask the 30 survivors of Benghazi. Oh, I’m sorry, those survivors are holed up with the attackers because neither can be found. We found Bin Laden, the stall in which the Mad Cow Disease originated, but the Benghazi crowd is elusive, and I know you don’t wonder why,

        • ric bon

          aschark,
          lets see; Bay of Pigs, Tokin Gulf, Watergate, Iran Contra, “Read my lips” or how about “Weapons of Mass Destruction”. Just to name some, so where have you been? Government lying? No way…

        • sal santoro

          …escuse me but how any enlisted man/woman can regard integrity. committment, and honor important, when we have a president who has been lying to us for years and he is getting away with it. Do you want to re-establish that kind of integrity?
          Fire the lying bastards and then start cleaning up the mess they have crated for years.

    • jecjmc

      Selective memory and that points to the lack of moral character. What I mean was it not President Nixon that said he wasn’t a thief….Learn your history not your agenda…There are no perfect souls that is why we have layers of leadership that oversee the people, process and platforms that safe guard this great country. To error is human to not lead and manage is not acceptable.

      • Steven M. Joyce

        he said he wasn’t a crook…sounds like you need to learn some history as well

    • 2ND DIV Veteran

      You mean like the lies Bush told the country in order to invade Iraq?
      Cut the stupidity and stop listening to Limbaugh the draft dodging hypocrite.

      • aabmh

        Has our president ever served in any branch of our services? I don’t think so. President Bush did. Bush, I’m sure made some mistakes along the way but not every day and not to the extent that it affected every taxpayer in the country. “You can keep the insurance you have if you don’t like Obamacare”, Benghazi, NSA spying, lies, lies, lies. Will it never end? Thank heavens these next 3 1/2 years will end and hopefully someone more experienced will take the office.

        • ric bon

          aabmh,

          Really, he made some mistakes? Lets see, the U.S. war in Iraq has cost $1.7 trillion with an additional $490 billion in benefits owed to war veterans, expenses that could grow to more than $6 trillion over the next four decades counting interest. How about over 123,000 dead civilians and over 36,000 serious wounded military members or over 4,000 dead military members.
          All over “Weapons of Mass Destructions” When will we stop looking at things as Red or Blue and look at them with honesty and impartiality. I gave 26 years of my young adult life to the service of this country and I know this, what administration has not lied to us? In my life time so far, none. When we learn to not look at our country as Democrat or Republican we will have better leadership in power.

          • gray_eagle

            A president can make decisions only as good as the intelligence given. President Bush II did his duty based upon what he was told. There were certainly advisers and intel preaching to him daily about weapons of mass destruction.

          • aschark

            gray eagle, tell ric above that the Iraq invasion was approved by Congress, with Hillary Clinton and John Kerry voting “yes” on the invasion. With the WMD, I gave my opinion in a previous comment (can’t duplicate here)

        • Joe Woods

          The current Prez (gee I hate to refer to him as the President, because he isn’t one) still has no experience. Furthermore, he has lied, he has cheated, and he has hurt this country far worse than any President in history.

        • Larry Wendt

          President Bush was AWOL from his Air National Guard unit to help one of his father’s friends run a political campaign, and he never got in trouble. That hardly qualifies as honorable service.

      • John Mead

        Oh you mean draft dodging like Clinton?

        • majorg1000

          Want to talk about Draft Dodging? Let’s talk about Cheney…or even Bush who although he got a cush job in the Guard, couldn’t even stay motivated enough to keep his pilot rating current.

          • John Mead

            Okay, okay, there’s no point arguing with you. You are obviously a Democrat with issues. Here’s an issue for you–Obama downsizing the military when the world scenario would beg different.

          • majorg1000

            Hey John, I am a veteran too… I am a retired USAF officer and a veteran of two wars. I sat Missile Alert at “ground Zero” during the Cold War with the Soviets breathing down our necks to keep them from using their nukes on us. We are ending two wars in the Middle East ( I won’t even debate if we should have been there or not), and because we don’t need the hundreds of thousands of troops required for those missions, yes, we are now drawing down the Military. You believe this is an administration “purge” to eliminate good soldiers and weaken our military? Nothing could be farther from the truth. The people being eliminated are those who have compromised their integrity, and the trust of this nation, or were in command of, and responsible for those who did.
            As soon as you have statements from the individuals that they were purged for the reasons YOU believe, then we can talk. Unitl then, you are spouting nothing but hot air. It is alarmist, and it stinks.

  • Brclrr

    There seems to be absolutely no consequences with this administration. In my opinion Eric Holder is guilty of neglegence in Fast and Furious. Hillary Clinton guilty of incompetance for Benghazi. IRS, NSA, Obamacare etc. etc. and it goes on and on and on. This administration is incompetant and it starts in the white house.

    • Gene Isis

      Most military personnel vote Republican.

      • Phil Breighner

        I sure hope so, that’s why the current admin. don’t want to count their votes.

    • jecjmc

      Gee I wonder who you voted for. Let’s check in on planet earth here for a minute. Who was President on 911. Who was President when 241 US Marines were killed in Lebannon. Who was President when we bugged out in Vietnam. Learn your history and remember this One Party wants to screw you the other will.

    • majorg1000

      Was Reagan guilty of negligence for Iran Contra? Was George W. Bush guilty of incompetance when he determined we would go to war with iraq for WMDs?
      The woman in charge of te IRS scandal was appointed by Bush in 2006. NSA snooping was begun under Bush. Obamacare? get over it…it is the Law of the Land.

  • Howard Donigian

    When your military starts to go along with the loose Government that is in place since 2008 Then every other thing goes along with it. Drug use why not it is legal In a couple of states or are we not calling the weed drugs. Now college basket ball players want to unionize. Where is this going to stop. Why not have Union in high schools so they can complain to the Union that they don’t like the teacher they have maybe even call a strike. I was a union President ( retired ) and I am disgusted with this basketball players wanting to Unionize. A union hasn’t any place in the student end of it. If I was on the school board I would stop the basketball program and tell the players that if you do not like it go else where. Where are we going with this Shall we unionize the students also. This type of crap has to stop and stop now or it will get out of hand and our education system will go down the drain. I guess you know where these players got this Idea the left and our president getting large donations from the Unions why not if it is good enough for the president .There are good unions and not there are good employers and not. UNIONS DO NOT HAVE ANYPLCE FOR STUDENTS in school EVER

    • majorg1000

      Let me just point out that in 2006 a B-52H flew from Minot AFB, ND to Barksdale AFB, La. with live nukes that everyone thought were training weapons, and it wasn’t discovered until after they landed. This happened well before the current administration. When I retired from the Air Force in 1995, the Unions were doing a full court press on trying to unionize the enlisted troops. That had been happening since the late 80s and the Reagan/Bush administrations.
      The current failings in the Missile Community have nothing to do with the President, or the Left. It has nothing to do with unions. What it has to do with is the failings of a few, and the peer pressure they put upon others. The people responsible have been punished in a way that virtually ends any possibilty of their advancement. Those who were actually caught cheating, or using drugs will face a tougher punishment still…up to and including time in Leavenworth.

      • jecjmc

        Some common sense here about the real world – good for you

  • Chris Harder

    put me in the silos I’ll turn the key. don’t do drugs and would love to serve. And I know i will turn the key…

    • majorg1000

      You have just guaranteed yourself that you will never pull even one day of Alert with an ICBM.

    • Smyth50

      You might have a big problem in turning the key. It take two missileers
      to turn (4) keys in order to launch a MM3. That way no one can threaten
      the other missileer with a hand gun. Not like in the movies. No hands
      free during launch.

  • MJB58

    How do you keep a fighting force ready, prepared, educated, at all times when there are so many distractions in todays world? The young men and women in the military are a mirror of our society… at my job which involves nuclear stuff it is hard to keep those not directly working on an engaging high thought project from checking their phones, emails, Facebook, etc. some more concerned with talking politics than observing and perhaps learning from others involved in more advanced work. During an advanced test I took 10 years, those that passed would spend the evenings studying in the hotel rooms …. Those that failed found other activities(you figure out which ones when men are away from home and the wife) to occupy themselves.

  • dz

    another embarrassment to the Obama administration

  • Gene Isis

    Very difficult job. More RnR for all those assigned to such duties.

    • Smyth50

      They could also increase the pay grade to four times the amount that
      a non Missileer would make of equal rank. Also their many contractors
      who are involved in the Minuteman program also. How about giving
      us poor working class contractors a big ol’ hairy pay raise to?

      • majorg1000

        They could also stick their fingers up their nose and blow to increase their intelligence. It ain’t gonna happen.

        • Smyth50

          You sound kind of bitter. Just another ‘joker’ that retired
          with stripes, trying to sound like a Major. Right?

          • majorg1000

            No. I was an officer who got out after 16 years and two wars as a Major due to the drawdown in 1995. I was a Missile Combat Crew Commander at Minot AFB, in the 742nd SMS; 91st SMW. I am not bitter, I could have stayed in. I am married to a Physician and decided her career was worth supporting more than my own. I made the right decision.
            Personally, I don’t care what you believe, but you should at least know the facts before you start denegrading others for absolutely no reason.

  • Harris Cal

    I am sure senior civilian leadership is looking closely to “why” leaders felt that it was necessary to cheat in order to pass the testing. Sounds like the military is following the trend of our educational system and setting up critereon testing that is not based on proficiency or knowledge of the practical aspects of our culture or military task performance but rather some other criteria that the military units find difficult to prepare for.
    I would love to get the full “back story” on this, including what the motives of the whistle blowers are/were.
    Our military is weakened more every day by this kind of publicity……. maybe that is the agenda.

    • majorg1000

      The “Leaders” didn’t feel it was neccesary to cheat. The junior officers on crew did. When I retired from the Air Force in 1995, Criterion Based testing was in full swing within the Major Commands. I believe they have since eliminated it. It was never a means for testing or evaluating Missile Crews. It just wouldn’t work, and was never tried, as far as I know (and I talk with other former and current Missileers daily, as I am one myself).
      The whistle blowers? There were none…that’s where the integrity issue comes into play. Read Colonel Stanley’s final address to the 341st at Malmstrom AFB, Mt. The cheating was discovered when a group of Air Force officers were being investigated by the OSI for illegal drug use. If anything, it was those caught using drugs that blew the whistle, my guess is the reasons are obvious.
      An agenda? It would have to be an agenda from within the Air Force itself, not from without. I knew and worked with LtGen Wilson when we were both captains at Ellsworth AFB, SD in the late 1980s. He flew B-1Bs, I taught him EWO (Emergency War Order; how to go to nuclear war). he was one of our best. I would trust him with my life. I know others would as well.
      It’s easy to look for conspiracies. It’s harder when you have to dig for the truth and punish subordinates who you have trused with the keys to the kingdom. In my opinion, there is no “agenda”.

      • Harris Cal

        Major, I reall appreciate your reply. I was active duty Navy from 1960-1980 and observed several cycles where a new CNO or Fleet Commander would establish criteria that was extremely difficult, if not impossible for some commands to meet. It was a double-edged sword, if you failed your career was in danger; if you took short cuts your career was in danger.
        Cheating is certainly not an option that should be considered.
        Great posting. I have been out of the military for more than three decades and probably should have been more pragmatic with my posting.

        • majorg1000

          I understand exactly where you are coming from, and the disappointment you feel. I feel it too. But we can’t lose focus that there are men and women in the military (and in Missiles) who haven’t cut corners. They haven’t lost their integrity. They may complain, we all did, but they do their job in an uncompromising way. I have been out for two decades. Much has changed, not all for the better. Thank you for writing back. Thank you for your service during an especially difficult time in our nation’s history.

          • Jay Fisher

            Totally unacceptable. As an old submarine Missileer, I am saddened to see that members of Triad without integrity. We were tested regularly and cheating was not even considered. It was and still is the duty of the crews to report such lapses in personality and judgement.

          • majorg1000

            It was that way when I was on Missile Crew as well. It remains that way today, I am told. It is inexcusable.

  • Smyth50

    The correct punishment is to make everyone involved in the scandal
    “Keister Stash’ one ICBM into what ever country we are at war with
    and detonate it. No more silo launches.

  • YONATAN C

    This is sadly just another example of what’s wrong with the country these days. Since late December, more than two million of unemployed workers, and their families, were hung out to dry by the Republicans, with their failure to pass the unemployment extension bill for these families in need. It’s been three months already, with proposal after proposal rejected by Republicans such as Senator John Boehner. These families have had to face eviction, home foreclosures, bankruptcy, and many have become homeless. These people are not “lazy”, or “Unwilling” to work as some Republicans have accused them of. I guess it’s easier to blame the victim instead of fixing the problem. It’s a shame that these politicians have used these unemployed families for political leverage, or bargaining chips for their party’s agenda. This is what’s become of our “public servants” these days. Gone are the days when it was a privilege and honor to get elected and to serve the people. Now it’s a game of who’s got the most prestige and power, and influence, It’s sadly all about the money in the end. John Boehner is an example of someone who cares only about himself and his party. Who care about the two million families without benefits.

    • D. Bishop

      Excuse me, but the article is about the military and a scandal that was dealt with.

      But if you want to harp on unemployment benefits, I’ll oblige. There have been people WE know and those family and friends know in two very widely separated States who have flat out refused to go to work after getting these benefits for 2 years!

      More than one has grown comfortable and learned “Not to work,” and in fact at least three have stated “I can’t afford to work – I will make less than my benefits.”

      Now there are a lot of States where there are more people on benefits than there are at work. ??????????? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? I’m not a Republican – but I do know how to do basic math – and THIS CANNOT BE SUSTAINED m friend – nor should it!

      No – what Obama’s administration needs to be doing is (1) he promised that he would make civilian jobs like Roosevelt during the Depression to re-build infrastructure, etc. Never happened.

      He needs to TAX the multi-national (formerly American) corporations that move their operations and outsource overseas – but keep their HQ here. An example is GM, who WE bailed out – and who are now having plants closed here and moved to Mexicao and China

      Tax their a$$ and let THOSE TAXES pay for unemployment benefits.

      Since you support the Dems – why don’t you call them and ask them to tax these businesses, since they like to tax the hell out of everything else.

      Even a close friend of mine – a former STAUNCH Democrat has stated to me that the Republicans are right. His son in law in his 30s won’t even try to get a job, but stays home and plays video games every day – letting his wife support him and two kids.

      And the guy is pissed now because his “benefits” are finally running out.

      All of Congress is to blame for letting our Corporations off the hook instead of taxing them or making them relocate and / or produce a large percentage of products here in the U.S.

      STAY OR PAY

  • Bryan W. Carpenter

    Are you distracted for Benghazi, IRS, Fast and Furious, ignoring oath of office and trashing the constitution. If the media is easily distracted, including this media, then we will never get justice.

    • Phil Breighner

      Bryan, the media are not distracted. They are part of the problem, a big part. Hell they are all in obumas pocket except Fox. I don’t believe a damm thing they say. As for SAC, I was part of the 93rd Bomb wing at Castle from 1960 to 1963. Than it was a great place to serve and Honorable outfit.

      • 2ND Div Army Veteran

        Obama or not , No informed recent vet is going to go near the GOP.
        They LOVE slashing any VA benefit but how they love those fat Pentagon contracts .
        Draping the flag and drooling over wars which they do not fight does not make a patriot . It makes Rush Limbaugh hypocrites .

        • Mike

          Well said sir…. And very true…..

        • Gary Church

          Well said. The truth is told sometimes even here.

  • deacon frost

    Why is it most of the time the finger points at the junior person. My last command a lot of work centers didn’t do so hot in a inspection. I had a senior enlisted come out and say “you didn’t fail us we failed you”. Pretty much saying that strong leadership starts at the top and works its way down.

    • majorg1000

      The junior people are the ones who cheated. The ones who lacked integrity, who failed their moral obligation. Senior leaders were fired. Nine of them, and that doesn’t count the ones who may be found guilty of cheating.

  • Sandy Charles

    Great. Be a general in the armed forces, rape your people, have affairs and get full retirement. Cheat on a test and loose everything. Great example set.

  • Frank

    What’s all the fuss about ? This is getting way blown out of proportion. As far as I know, no one has fired a missile accidentally (yet). Compared to our government (i.e. Congress, CiC/POTUS) who lie, cheat, steal, and get us involved in meaningless wars putting the country into major debt and nobody does anything about them. Bottomline, all those involved should be reviewed and given a second chance or discharged/retired when applicable. On the other hand, America may be in deeper trouble across the board as a glass-house country on the verge of total collapse …

  • TrollHunter

    Everybody cheats on exams in the military.

    • majorg1000

      No, not everyone.

      • TrollHunter

        I bow to your superior wisdom and virtue.

      • US_SignalBatt

        Exactly, not everyone.

    • Frank

      Not exactly. Sounds like improper training … requiring ‘cheating’ … and we’re talking about managing our ICBMs. The goal should be that everyone ‘knows’ their job/duties – is thoroughly trained in such so all is known – and to perform their responsibilities; not just to pass a ‘test’. The whole program sounds like it needs overhauling. If any of these pigs fly out of their silos, we’re all in a bunch of trouble anyway.

    • GrayceJ

      So?

  • Richard Thomas

    Most of these people are doing Non Jobs in the first place, there are only so many donuts you can eat in a day. How many enemies does the US have to have? The countries arsenal is so large it is beyond belief in it’s destructive power and if it had to use it most probably we would already be gone or on the way out. Most of these operations just need closing down. Over time technology has made many facilities redundant. The US has so much fire power and so much technology we just do not need Government employees making fools of us.

    • majorg1000

      The nation’s arsenal is large. It continues to shrink daily as we eleminate nuclear weapons based on the START Treaty, and the systems designed to deliver them. We have dropped to less than half of the missiles we had when I was on missile crew, and even less than half of the weapons these systems can carry.
      I am not saying we shouldn’t continue to reduce our stockpile…we should, but there is a reason we have fewer nuclear capable enemies today than we have in the past, and it is due in large part to the vey ICBMs we are discussing today. Don’t think for a minute that those former enemies have destroyed their capability to strike the US with long range missiles. They haven’t, and until they do, neither should we.
      You are right. We don’t ned “government employees” making us look foolish. We don’t need former basketball players going to North Korea and making us look foolish either, but it is the world we live in. Those “government employees” unlike a former NBA player will be punished, and punished severely.

  • FallenHeros

    Good Job Air Force! No sarcasm here, people screw up, people cheat, people are lazy and people make mistakes. Authorities like to hide these or dismiss them as well when possible. Not here, Air Force sets the bar in this. I hope the others follow their lead.

    • Flambe27

      Really? Please tell in what branch of THE ARMED SERVICES you served and at what rank? You sound somewhat like the old record of the “under-achievers” placing burden on the senior leadership that found you “wanting.”
      “The Bar?” Pitiful Chaney fired a Chief of Staff of a branch of The Armed Forces in an effort to suggest his “cajones?” He set our Armed Forces off to Iraq as a measure of his “cajones.” He shot a friend in the face on a hunting venture as a measure of his “cajones.” And most recently outgoing Sec of Defense Gates did about the same thing in firing Air Force Officers en masse to again express his “macho.” Gates had no “active duty” experience, he was pure and simple a “pol” for his decades in Washington DC; and the wimpy Panetta as Sec of Defense had no “clue” he was disclosing classified information in a briefing chiefly designed to do so?

      • FallenHeros

        I served 21 years in the US Army as a 13B and medically retired as a Master Sergeant. I work now for the Dept. of Defense and am a GS-14. I am 42 years old. What people like you who jump into conversations out of their league do not understand is in all branches of government people make mistakes, people are lazy, and people do shady things. When the people in charge of an Agency, Division, Battalion or Department has the opportunity to cover up for PR and their own personal agendas that is always a consideration. The same goes in the private sector. Another option is to minimize the damage with minimal consequences. That does not apply here as the Air Force went all out to clean up what happened, reprimand those responsible and they did it publicly for a Dept.. I commend the Air Force for doing the right thing. You are not commenting on this article in any manner. You bring up good points, but none are relative to the matter at hand. I would recommend you try to focus on what you are trying to say and how you present it and keep it relative to the article and comment you posted against. Asking someone for their credentials without posting any of your own throws some of your validity out the window. You actually missed the small point I made entirely. When I commend the Air Force,that commending Senior Leadership in stepping up and doing the right thing. Now go back and try to troll someone else because you failed here sir.

  • Ignacio Padilla

    Sheeesh, All I hear is people talking about the Military Being Prepared to push the button. As a Retired Naval Petty Officer, I find this disgusting. After retiring I found a little known book written by a Great Writer, Leo Tolstoy, He is better known for His books “War and Peach” and “Anakanarina”. Few People, except the likes of Mahatmas Gandhi, Dr. Martin Luther King, and Cesar Chavez have practiced what Tolstoy taught in his book, “THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS WITH IN YOU”. Tolstoy taught peaceful resistance to the Government. In his book, “THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS WITH IN YOU”, He quotes “Adin Ballou” who wrote, “How many does it take”. In it he writes, If one man kills another it is murder, if two men kill some one it is murder, If 50 men conspire to kill it is murder, same with 100. However, If a state or country declares war it is not murder. Tolstoy, even though he was a Russian Army Officer, studied the Bible. Tolstoy also used some of the writings of William Lloyd Garrison, who helped free the Slaves. Garrison wrote, “We have instruments of mass destruction, and Military Chaplains to Bless them.” May Jehovah God Have Mercy On Our Souls.

  • Winerover

    No amount of training will overcome the lack of values displayed by Americans. Our country is in a downhill slide. Somehow we’ve been taught to love ourselves more than our country. Teach you children right from wrong. Promise to live your life as an example to others.

    These officers learned to cheat before entering the military. How can we ask them to be honest when we are not?

  • Colleen Payne

    Will any of those who were fired be criminally charged by the Military? They should be.

    • majorg1000

      Those fired? Probably not…for what? They committed no crime. They didn’t lie, cheat, steal, or perjur themselves. They have committed no criminal act. Complacency, Stupidity and being unaware of things around you isn’t a crime.
      Those caught cheating have yet to be punished, and yes, they may be criminally charged under the UCMJ.

  • Hyper Driven

    I’m surprised this sht isn’t done by robots anyway LOL.

    • majorg1000

      Clearly you haven’t seen “Wargames”. It would be immensely foolish to remove human beings from the nuclear equation.

  • Jimmy Big Time

    I’m a retire Officer of 24 years. No, I did not cheat, lie or do anything that might jepordise my career. However, I’m not 100% on what went wrong with this scenerio but, I wish we held our U.S. Senators and Congressmen/women to the same standards. They are a bunch of lying, coniving, thieves running this country. Shame on us for letting them.

  • Patriot

    Dishonesty and moral corruption starts at the top. Barrack Obama is the most dishonest lying scheming treacherous piece of garbage that has ever been in the United State government. And he surrounds himself with more pieces of garbage.

    • majorg1000

      Wrong. Itegrity and moral fiber begin withe everyone. Not some figurehead at the top, and the dishonesty, scheming and treachery didn’t begin with President Obama. If you want to “go there” we can, butI think you will lose, epically.

    • Gary Church

      Best President we have ever had. You are the garbage.

  • Ed Forney

    One commander resigned, with full pension I would guess. How about all those that cheated on the tests?????? ” James and Lewis had little nice to say about those who broke the rules”. Can them. Simple as that.

    • mjorg1000

      They aren’t done yet. They have to use a legal recourse for criminal actions. Thos who cheated will be dealt with severely.

  • Jim Rossi

    I was in SAC – 351st Strategic Missile Wing ,351st OMMS/ MMT .( alert Missile Maintenance Team ) . This kind of behavior would not have been tolerated under HRP/PRP . The exact quote from CINSCAC Russell Dougherty ( whom I’ve meet personally ) was ” Too err is human,to forgive,divine. And neither is SAC policy ” ,Why is it that perfection was the norm in the 70′s but now is unachievable ? I’d love for the NEW SECAF get some of us old SAC people in there to show them how it was ( and can be ) done .

    • majorg1000

      SAC has been gone for over 20 years. The mission we had during the Cold War as been denegrated into positions of glorified babysitters. Missiles is truly the “Redheaded Bastard Stepchild” of the USAF that nobody wants. Does that excuse any of what happened? Not at all. You aren’t the only “old head” who wishes they could “show them how it’s done”. I have heard the same from others as well. The fact is, we can’t. When the Berlin Wall came down, and SAC disappeared, a lot of what was practiced was tossed aside. After 20 years, it is all but forgotten…except by a few. General Wilson, AFGSC CC and I were both Captains at Ellsworth together. I taught EWO to him and the other Aircrew members of the 28th BMW. I was the first Missileer to teach EWO to Aircrews, ever. I know he gets it. I know he knows he has a lot of ground to cover in a very short time. I think they are headed in the right direction. They have done the right thing in confronting this scandal, and I am willing to give them the time to straighten it out.

  • dan

    Is Deborah Lee James really the best of the best heading up the airforce or is she simply acting in a role given to her for diversifcation and politically correctness. I think she is a tool to impliment the Obama agenda of destroying our military.

    • majorg1000

      Yes Dan, She’s pretty damn good, and she has good people working for her. Believe what you like, but everything you have read about what is “destroying” the military has been done to itself, by itself. President Obama didn’t plant the cheaters…nor did he or the government find them. The Air Force Office of Special Investigations found them. General Carey wasn’t forced at gunpoint to make an ass out of himself in Russia…he did that all by himself.
      If there is a tool anywhere around, it’s you.

    • GrayceJ

      No one wants to destroy the military. They just want a standing army for defense, and have a principled opposition to preemptive wars on the offense.

  • Roberto Antonio Falk

    Put Putin in Charge…problem solved.

  • Trenchtown Rocket

    This is that Jack Ass Barrack Obama’s military on full display. What else would you expect from that kind of a Moron In Chief?

    • who really cares

      You should really get out more. Living in your Mom’s basement is getting to you.

    • GrayceJ

      Are you kidding? Yes, he is commander in chief. Then again, his career military brass heard it on the grapevine of talk radio that they did not have to listen to him. This is the worst civilian America we have ever seen.

  • StevenRobert

    Probably giving this kind of test may not be a good way to measure competence.
    I would think they should have rotating schedules for simulated missile management, including command, control, maintenance and firing.
    A rotating schedule to assess actual performance would be a better measure of competence than testing, which, while easy to administer and score, probably is not a good way to measure competence, as these problems show.

    • majorg1000

      It had nothing to do with competence. They all tested well enough to pass any competency concerns. It had to do with feeling they had to be perfect in order to be promoted. They cheated to achieve that perfection. It has very little to do with competency, and everything to do with integrity.

  • Buddy Holly

    The military has been declining for years in many areas; stuff like this is only news to the uninformed civilian.

    • Gary Church

      Tell that to our infantry and armor guys who have been fighting house to house and in the mountains for years. They have become the best soldiers on this planet and would kick your ass up around your ears if you whined in their direction.

      • Buddy Holly

        Lol. You are such a butthurt little internet troII. Maybe they would, that is if me and mine weren’t flying air support missions for them protecting their sorry 11 bravo asses. Maybe you should go back to whatever cave you crawled out of.

  • Buddy Holly

    Lol. Civilians think that military personnel can be “fired”. Will the country ever learn anything about its own military? Highly doubtful.

    • Gary Church

      Officers do get fired- as in they know their career is over and resign just like Col. Stanley. I saw it many times. Highly doubtful that you have a clue about what you are commenting on.

      • Buddy Holly

        Gary you should probably just go screw yourself. Either you are trolling or you are just defending the perpetuation of the ignorant civilian masses. Get buggered in basic training or something? Don’t take it out on the rest of us pal.

  • Buddy Holly

    The Secretary of the Air Force is a paper-pushing REMF who never even served? And a female? Lol. That figures. If anyone wants to know if the military is in a tail spin, look no further than Deborah Lee James. Thanks Obama. The leaders of this nation are just intent on ruining it.

    • Gary Church

      She is very highly qualified and we have civilian leaders giving orders to the military in this country buddy- not the other way around. “Serving” in the military is not some mystical rite of passage that gives magical leadership prowess. I served and have met better leaders running landscaping businesses.

      • Buddy Holly

        She hasn’t spent a day in uniform, neither has this joke of a POTUS. She’s about as qualified as a trained monkey is. I never said that serving automatically made a person a great leader. Serving does however give them the required knowledge and experience. Perhaps if the idiots running this country were actually knowledgeable and experienced in important fields the US wouldn’t be such a mess.

        • Gary Church

          I would say the joke is on you. He is the president and you are the one commenting on the internet.

          Ms. James is responsible for the affairs of the Department of the Air Force,
          including the organizing, training, equipping and providing for the
          welfare of its more than 690,000 active duty, Guard, Reserve and
          civilian Airmen and their families. She also oversees the Air Force’s
          annual budget of more than $110 billion.
          Ms. James has 30 years
          of senior homeland and national security experience in the federal
          government and the private sector. Prior to her current position, Ms.
          James served as President of Science Applications International
          Corporation’s Technical and Engineering Sector, where she was
          responsible for 8,700 employees and more than $2 billion in revenue.

          You are the trained monkey buddy.

          • Buddy Holly

            Wow you spent way too long on your response. I didn’t bother reading it since it’s probably more garbage from the mind of an imbecile. But if you feel the need to defend a no-good bureaucrat maybe you should just admit you want to bone the hag and get it over with? It’d be less embarrassing than you leading your white knight charge against anonymous internet posters like the sad basement dweller you appear to be. Good day, and I’ll take it as a kindness if you never respond to any of my posts in the future.

  • texasjo

    Cheating has been going on since was in high school in the late 1960′s. People from so called “good” families not only got away with it but were highly praised by teachers.

  • Jeffrey Phillips

    what’s up with thing world don’t anyone think anymore one person mess up is other persom nightmare they really need to think about things befor they do them man dad was in the air force I hope this worlf fixes it self with this small mess up’s thing like that could get people killed or even hart bad. they have to think what woild happen and then do it.

  • madfam004

    What about the rest of our government agencies that may be cheating to keep their jobs?

  • James S.

    This is all well and good. However, I think more focus should be placed on the character and background of those they hire for these jobs. Obviously they were not officer material in any way shape or form. I believe that the hiring/recruiting standards have gone to shit, and I don’t mean just the USAF, all across the board things are going to hell.

  • Cik

    Cheater cheater pumpkin eater?

  • TallTexan2

    News Flash! Our society, for years, has accepted cheating in school, on-the-job, and in other institutions – all under the guise of getting ahead. Rarely do you hear or read about people being punished for having cheated on a test – at any level. The Air Force is made up of a cross section of our population; therefore, they are also made up of a cross section of people who think that cheating to get ahead is okay. That POV needs to be immediately snuffed and a message sent loud and clear to all Air Force personnel that cheating/lying may have been ignored while you were in school or living at home, but THIS institution does not put up with such behavior.

  • Lynn Whitw

    Shit happens what did you expect.

  • Lynn Whitw

    There has been cheating since grade school. They want that next rank. They will do anything to get it. SO HERE WE ARE.

  • evola33

    Obama sure is pissed about not getting his way for SC.

  • fd sdf

    MUSLIM AND CHRISTIANS SUCK
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  • Mike House

    I’d rather they cheat and get the right answer than guess and get it wrong. Memory has no place in launching missiles. It’s read a step, do a step, get a banana.

    • Majorg1000

      Just by your very comment, I can tell you have been there, done that.

  • Reiki-ology Master Healing

    Maybe if the USA stopped its involvement in drug trafficking, caring nothing about the lives of their own countryman/women, they would not now have to even drug test Military personel when scandals happen.

  • Robert Beuttler

    Big f–king deal, Obama Cheated and lied his way into the white House and on his way to destroy the greatest military in the world. JUST SAYING.

  • Jeff Steinbeck

    I’m just astonished at how low these feminists will go to destroy a man’s life, career, family, future…Of course, you have Huff Post serving them up on a platter.
    Never…in the history of America, have we seen this kind of attack being leveled at our military, always at men..by the most insane women, ever to disgrace the White House.

    • RobGoetzSr

      Agreed.

    • majorg1000

      I am astonished at what ain ignorant, uneducated misogynist bigot you are.

  • Jeff Steinbeck

    You know Obama is behind this…Never forget that our wonderful President went on National TV and said it was a Youtube video that started the uprising at the Benghazi Embassy, which led to the death of the American Ambassador, Chris Stevens, first Ambassador killed in over 30 years. Subsequent reports proved that the White House, Susan Rice, all of them knew, it was a terrorist attack, people at the highest levels, including Hilary Clinton, KNEW IT WAS A TERRORIST ATTACK…And Yet Barrack Obama LIED ABOUT IT…and no repercussions…none whatsoever. That kind of scandal would easily bring down most administrations…the irony is, the administration which has lied the most to the American Public, gets away literally with murder.

    • RobGoetzSr

      The excuse using the video was only concocted by Obama to give cover to his “islamo-fascist” buddies!

  • Alfred Silva

    Bring back strong republicanism. We have the Hillary Clintons and Gabby Gifford crew of old farty women seeking a stage for themselves and politically correct tokens like Obama compromising our defence. George W. Bush was no soldier. That’s where he failed. Obama did no service like Clinton that’s where they failed us.
    Instead of spending money and destroying relationships in places like Syria, Egypt, Tunisia, Malaysia, Indonesia and Russia we provoke situations there and reduce our effectiveness in these places creating more and more enemies for ourselves.
    China has just successfully tested their hyper rocket. They have spied on us for ages through seducing our New York and LA socialites and metrosexuals stealing everything from us by paying off our politicians and those entrusted with our secrets.
    China is also sub contractor to many of our stealth bombers and other stealth related technology. What stealth do we now have? They obtained a part of a stealth bomber from the Serbs, reverse engineered it then allowed US companies in defence related projects to outsource to them.

    We need to execute people who betray our systems and our secrets even if only accidentally. If we can execute an individual for murder then surely we could execute many individuals for betrayal of our country and our security.

    • majorg1000

      In the United States, we have a Constitution and a Bill of Rights which protect our citizens from the very things you are calling to be done. Perhaps you should learn what being a citizen of this nation means…if not, I will gladly help you pack so you can live somewhere…anywhere else.

      • Alfred Silva

        Oh really? is that why you had Watergate, Viet Nam, Nicaragua, Irak and Afghanistan? Constitution? is that why your constitution allowed for the enslavement and ill treatment of African minorities and others till the late 1960′s till Johnson passed his bill? not that it does not endure to this day.
        Why don’t you bend over, drop your pants and let the ICBM’s do you a favour of not the cheats and fill you up with their “constitution” ? I’ll help you pack up your bags after that because that’s what your space will be reduced to.
        Hypocrite and looser.

        • Gary Church

          I agree with majorg- you should move to another country that will appreciate you. Your sublime prose is being wasted here.

  • RobGoetzSr

    A more suitable solution would have been to promote the next in command and then mete out punishment instead of leaving the Nation vulnerable to attack! My Congressman will hear from me… and I will demand someone from “within the command structure” be placed in charge of defense instead of this civilian female dufus!

    • majorg1000

      You have no idea of what you are talking about. They have fired only those who had direct command responsibilty for the innapropriate actions of several junior officers. Those junior officers are about to be dealt with through the military legal system; The UCMJ. The nation is not vulnerable to attack. It is no more vulnerable to attack today than when I sat missile alert during the Cold War as a member of the Strategic Air Command. The new Secretary of the Air Force James is a competent and intelligent person who has surrounded herself with smart and able people. Perhaps you should actually read what this whole thing is about instead of going off on some misogynist and alarmist rant.

  • Jeff Steinbeck

    Ignoring the reality that we have an anti-American, anti-military President…further makes our lives, worse. How can you fire men who are in charge of our nuclear defense system? Especially at this time. I’m telling you, that Obama is behind this…he’s setting these men up…It comes at an odd time…With Russia acting to protect its territorial interest…

  • Jeff Steinbeck

    Every time, a so-called scandal arises, tell me what you see on tv? You have Hillary Clinton shrieking like a mad woman in front of congress, shrugging away the fact that Chris Stevens was murdered by Islamic radicals….You have the Sec. of Defense, another fall guy…saying we’re cutting back our military, while Russia is beefing up theirs…And of course, our Glorious Liar, Barrack Obama, always on the campaign trail, with the lies, the rhetoric. Funny thing is, I heard his speech, given in Europe today…Its not a speech he would have given in America, discussing how we must embrace our gay brothers and sisters…really? lol… Obama is such a turn-coat. I know now, why he is President, it is to lead us, but he’s leading to us to catastrophe, it’s his chief aim.

    • Gary Church

      You seem a little hysterical. Calling the president our “Glorious Liar” is pretty much a give away to what you are. Why don’t you post on a “I hate Obama” website and let us discuss defense?

  • CPJ

    People who cheat, whether officers or college/University A students, will continue to cheat and not let anyone know it. Remember the military academies and hundreds of college and university doing the same thing. Most of the colleges/universities kept it in house as the leak or news falls on the administration and taints the reputation of the college or university. My best, CPJ

  • Jeff Steinbeck

    Just read the headline:

    Air Force Cans 9 ICBM Launch Officers In Cheating Scandal, Unveils Nuke Recommendations
    Obama is a turn-coat, what he’s attempting to do right now is to allow us to be attacked

    • majorg1000

      Jeff, What the President, SECDef, SECAF, and the entire USAF are trying to do is pervent that very thing from happening. Having been a Missile Officer during the Cold War, I can assure you that the firing of those involved will in no way jeopardize our security, or weaken our defenses. Only a fool would think otherwise. The people being punished had the oversight responsibility for ensuring that what indeed happened, would never happen. The Nuclear business is a tough business, and requires tough decisions, uncompromising integrity and unwaivering discipline. Those who were actually caught cheating will face stiffer penalties and punishments, as well they should.
      It has nothing to do with the President. It has to do with changing a culture of complacency that has been building for over two decades.

    • Mike

      Take your political crap and stuff it!… Obama this, Obama that… You haven’t got a clue… Incidentally, where did you serve? My guess is NEVER…. Few of you blowhard Republican apologists (employee’s?) have ever served… :(

      • majorg1000

        Well said, Mike.

  • Catine

    General Curtis LeMay? Humm..The men respected him to a p;oint of unbelievable.
    Remember, the Air Force was mostly a Celtic Anglos Entity that emerged from,the Andrew Jackson Presidency. The Old Army of West Pointers from Hudson River folk,
    New Port News, still ruled, thus meaning all other except mainly these Anglo Saxons
    were officiers or reached the HIGH RANK. Most Irish, Celtic Anglos and others were
    enlisted men. So Hap Arnold and such who made it, along with much work.
    detached the Air Force from the Army, and they went gun ho. The joke was they even made the people who cleaned the airplane officers. It seemed they were a
    relaxed fun group to be sure. The Old Army was horrified at their actions
    and fun. But along came General Curtis LeMay and led them to glory,
    of which, has not been enacted since. Glory be, a politician Le May was not,
    but even studying our Old Army, there was truly never such leader to my
    knowledge.
    It turns out, the Soviets had no such plans that we projected and Armor Hammer,
    with American approval, built buildings for Stalin, and Soviets, helped himself
    to their fine arts and such. Even the Gore family of Tennessee gain much
    wealth of this play of war..So the Eagle and the Bear, played JET tag
    at the North Pole as did the submarines in the ocean bottom.

    Wars are profitable but also crippling to a Nation. So you figure. General
    LeMay was not of the click, so envy must of been dire. There
    was movie made of this ERA of Combat Ready men under LeMay
    at Carswell Air Force Base, Texas with June Allison and Jimmy Stewart,
    of which, gives insights to this amazing leader called Gen. Curtis LeMay.
    Check it out..forget history one is blind in one eye,know not history one
    is blind in both eyes.

  • ADNY

    You can sexually rape and abuse females at will and only get a slap on the wrist fine, or you can cheat on a test and get fired. HMMMM.

  • artarlo1

    I smell Obama…………….

    • pianobill

      You sure do. Think of how much cleaning it’s going to take to get that odor out of the WH.

  • john poldrugo

    anyone involved should be fired .there is no room for that in any of our armed forces

    • pianobill

      The Liar-in-Chief should be fired also. What he has done is much worse than cheating on a test.

  • Joe Woods

    Since the (tongue-in-cheek) Commander-In-Chief can lie and cheat, everyone else feels they can too….?

  • Larry Wendt

    Col Stanley should NOT have to resign. He should have gotten a repremand and leave it at that. Cheating has been going on there for decades, they just got caught now. I know, because I was stationed there. The officers doing the actual cheating should be forced to resign. The biggest problem on that base and in that area is RACISM. That needs to be addressed ASAP. Nobody wants to admit that it exists, and worse, they are afraid to fix it. I remember one case in which the Senior Enlisted Advisor /Chief Master Sergeant (The highest ranking enlisted person on the base) was called a “N***ER” by a Civil Service or NAF employee at the NCO Club and nothing was done about it. In fact the Chief was forced to PCS from the base to keep the incident quiet. That is just one of a myriad of incidents that goes on there. It needs to be cleaned up. The “Congress-Creatures”/congressmen in the area are totally USELESS. Whenever there is a complaint, they send it back to the base people who are accused of an infraction for a comment, and ofcourse they will deny that anything happened. But those morons just accept the explanation and sweep it under the rug. This has been going on for over 20 years that I am personally aware of, but I would not be surprised if it has been going on for even much longer. Time for a change, lets do whats right.
    This is EXACTLY why our military members hate being stationed there, it is seen as a TERRIBLE assignment.

  • D. Bishop

    NO AGENDA? … Scrapping a commander for trumped up charges – illegal gambling chips? While NO ONE even is allowed to be investigated for Benghazi? (a cover-up) Fast & Furious? (2A attack) And on and on!

    And under the worst Comander-in-Chief in our Nation’s history .. Where did he even come from? What other President had all their records sealed?

    Maybe SOME of these guys were fired – to make it not too obvious – for a legitimate reason , BUT A HELLUVA LOT OF FINE OFFICERS ARE BEING PURGED my friends! They could name this “Operation Milscrap”

    There IS a purge and war has been declared on veterans – Veterans have been declared “LIKELY DOMESTIC TERRORISTS” by Janet and others – Hillary Clinton HATES soldiers (and LEOs) As SHE said after Benghazi, “WHO CARES?”

    Veterans are being disappeared …. and disarmed …. and suicided … and taken out of their homes and being forcefully committed. Why??? Who wants them out of the way? For what reason? …

    This is an ongoing purge of FINE OFFICERS that would even make Stalin uneasy. It should do the same to you!

    Have you never put puzzles together? HIGHLY DECORATED COMMANDERS – IN CHARGE OF NUKES – FIRED FOR A COUPLE OF WOODEN POKER CHIPS? Really?

    LISTEN t0 some of the military whistle blowers themselves.

    2013 – “In an unprecedented action, an Air Force commander has stripped 17 of his officers of their authority to control and launch nuclear missiles.”

    2013 – 11 Oct “Major General M Carey was fired from his job as Commander of the 20th Air Force. The role is responsible for three wings of intercontinental missiles, a total of 450 missiles at three different US bases. He has served for 35 years …, with numerous awards” for “loss of trust”.

    2013 9 Oct “President Obama himself fired the Navy head of nuclear weapons, …. Navy Vice Admiral Tim Giardina, second-in-charge at US Strategic Command, was fired by the President … due to use of counterfeit poker chips”

    “The RARE FIRINGS of military nuclear chiefs in which several more preceded them – CAME FOLLOWING THE HIGH LEVEL MILITARY LEAK regarding the SECRET AND UNSIGNED nuclear weapons transfer from Dyess AFB to South Carolina. Disturbingly, the high level suspensions from top generals within the military establishment are not the only red flags to follow the leaked report.”

    SC Sen Lindsey Graham went on record only hours after this report saying ” A NUCLEAR ATTACK COULD COME TO SOUTH CAROLINA in the event we didn’t invade Syria” and that “NUCLEAR WEAPONS in the hands of terrorists could result IN A BOMB COMING TO CHARLESTON HARBOR”

    OK — So we have nukes SMUGGLED out of Dyess AFB – TO SOUTH CAROLINA (where none officially are) – it’s “Leaked by a high military source” and virtually the same day SC Sen Graham says “If we don’t invade Syria a nuke can come to SC” because he doesn’t know the “Story” was leaked. THEN TWO DAYS LATER the top two nuke commanders get axed- one highly decorated- FOR WOODEN POKER CHIPS – COME ON!

    And Obama JUST SAID in the G8 summit – he doesn’t fear the Russians (which he OUGHT to) – he fears “A NUKE GOING OFF IN MANHATTAN” But then he already told Putin “WHEN I’M RE-ELECTED THAT’LL BE EASIER TO DO” … Do what???

    Former Navy SEAL Ben Smith warned us that Obama is asking top military brass if they would be comfortable disarming U.S. citizens, A LITMUS TEST that includes gauging whether they would order NCOs to fire on Americans. “Going back to the beginning of this administration, I’ve had friends within the community talking about how they were brought in and questioned … ‘DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE DISARMING AMERICAN CITIZENS?”

    Smith added that the litmus test was related to the recent firing of Navy Vice Adm. Giardina and Maj. Gen. Carey.

    In January, 2009 Nobel Peace Prize nominee Jim Garrow claimed he was told by top military that the Obama administration’s “litmus test” for new military leaders is whether or not they will fire on U.S. citizens.

    Also under Democratic leadership. hundreds of Marines at 29 Palms, California were given a survey which asked Marines if they would “FIRE UPON US CITIZENS WHO RESIST CONFISCATION OF FIREARMS BANNED BY THE US GOV”

    Just Google “NO MORE HESITATION TARGETS” [bet you never knew about that!]

    Read the newest “Internment ans Resettlement Operations” manual – 2010 edition

    And domestic drones – NDAA – allowances to “take out” American citizens – huge purchases of hollow point [illegal for military use] ammo and armored vehicles for “domestic training” …

    Spying and surveillance that is off the charts – NSA data mining of U.S. civilians – plans for RFID chipping of military personnel –

    Strange coincidental deaths and “accidents” of a lot of NAVY SEALS who were in the “Bin Laden raid” or close to it” along with the now revealed fake “live footage” of Obama, Clinton and others supposedly watching the operation while it happened..

    And the all time high level of supposed suicides of military personnel

    INCLUDING THE RECENT “SUICIDE” OF THE TOP NAVY SEAL COMMANDER IN AFGHANISTAN? “Whiskey Tango Foxtrot”???

    And you wonder why so many veterans ARE being disarmed now. I personally know of two who have been disarmed recently

    And troops are being ORDERED to take certain drugs to “calm them” in combat AOs — only these drugs NOW QUALIFY SUCH THAT THEY WILL NO LONGER BE ALLOWED TO POSSESS WEAPONS UPON RETURNING HOME.

    Thanks for your service boys and girls — Our government thanks you.

    Retired US Army Maj Gen Paul Vallely reports, “Obama is intentionally weakening and gutting our military,” …“anyone who disagrees or speaks out is being purged.”

    HERE’S A SMATTERING – CONCENTRATING MOSTLY ON THE NAVY –

    Very Recent Commanding Generals fired
    Gen John R. Allen USMC Commander International Security Assistance Force [ISAF] (Nov 2012)
    Maj Gen R Baker US Army Commander of Combined Joint Task Force Horn in Africa (Apr 2013)
    Maj Gen M Carey USAF Commander of 20th USAF in charge of 9,600 people and 450 ICBMs (Oct 2013)
    Col J Christmas USMC Commander 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit & Commander Special-Purpose Marine Air-Ground Task Force Crisis Response Unit (Jul 2013)
    Maj Genl P Fuller US Army Commander in Afghanistan (May 2011)
    Maj Gen C Gurganus USMC Regional Commander of SW and I Marine Expeditionary Force in Afghanistan (Oct 2013)
    Gen C F Ham UArmy African Command (Oct 2013)
    Lt Gen D Huntoon Jr. US Army 58th Superintendent of USMA at West Point (2013)
    Command Sgt Maj D B Jordan US Army 143rd Expeditionary Sustainment Command (suspended Oct 2013)
    Gen J Mattis USMC Chief of CentCom (May 2013)
    Col D Margolin USMC in charge of Quantico’s Security Battalion (Oct 2013)
    Gen S McChrystal US Army Commander Afghanistan (Jun 2010)
    Gen D McKiernan US Army Commander Afghanistan (2009)
    Gen D Petraeus Director of CIA from September 2011 to November 2012 & U.S. Army Commander International Security Assistance Force [ISAF] and Commander U.S. Forces Afghanistan [USFOR-A] (Nov 2012)
    Brig Gen B Roberts US Army Commander 2nd Brigade (May 2013)
    Maj Gen G A Sturdevant USMC Director of Strategic Planning and Policy for USPAC & Commander of Aviation Wing at Camp Bastion, Afghanistan (Sept 2013)
    Col E Tilley US Army Commander of Garrison Japan (Nov 2013)
    Brig Gen B Wampler US Army Commanding General of 143rd Expeditionary Sustainment Command of the 1st Theater Sustainment Command [TSC] (suspended Oct 2013)

    Vwet Recent Commanding Admirals fired
    Rr Adml C Gaouette USN Commander John C. Stennis Carrier Strike Group Three (Oct 2012)
    Vice Adml T Giardina (demoted & re-assigned) USN Deputy Commander of US Strategic Command, Commander of Submarine Group Trident, Submarine Group 9 and Submarine Group 10 (Oct 2013)

    Naval Officers fired: (All in 2011)
    Capt D Geisler USN Commander Task Force 53 in Bahrain (Oct 2011)
    Commander L Bell USN Commander Naval Support Activity Saratoga Springs, NY (Aug 2011)
    Lt Commander K Boenisch XO amphibious transport dock Ponce (Apr 2011)
    N Borchers USN Commander destroyer USS Stout (Mar 2011)
    Rt Brown USN Commander Beachmaster Unit 2 Fort Story, VA (Aug 2011)
    Commander A Crowe USN XO Navy Region Center Singapore (Apr 2011)
    Capt R Gamberg XO carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (Jun 2011)
    Capt Guinn USN Commander Navy Legal Service office Japan (Feb 2011)
    K Harms USN Commander Strike Fighter Squadron 137 aboard aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln (Mar 2011)
    Lt Commander M Holguin USN Commander mine countermeasures USS Fearless (Oct 2011)
    Capt O Honors USN Commander aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (Jan 2011)
    Capt D Hornbeck USN Commander Destroyer Squadron 1 San Diego (Apr 2011)
    Rr Adml R Horton USN Commander Logistics Group, Western Pacific (Mar 2011)
    E Jones USN Commander amphibious transport dock Ponce (Apr 2011)
    R Jones USN XO amphibious transport dock Green Bay (Jul 2011)
    J Jackson USN Commander Electronic Attack Squadron 134, deployed aboard carrier USS Carl Vinson (Dec 2011)
    Capt E Merrill USN Commander submarine USS Emory S. Land (Jul 2011)
    Capt W Mosk USN Commander Naval Station Rota, USN Commander Naval Activities Spain (Apr 2011)
    T Murphy USN Commander Electronic Attack Squadron 129 at Naval Air Station Whidbey Island, WA (Apr 2011)
    J Nosse USN Commander ballistic-missile submarine USS Kentucky (Oct 2011)
    M Olson USN Commander destroyer USS The Sullivans FL (Sep 2011)
    Commander J Pethel USN XO amphibious transport dock New York (Dec 2011)
    K Pugh USN Commander Electronic Attack Squadron 141 Whidbey Island, WA (Jul 2011)
    J Strength USN Commander of Navy Recruiting District Nashville, TN (Jul 2011)
    Capt G Thomas USN Commander Norfolk Naval Shipyard (May 2011)
    M Varney USN Commander attack submarine USS Connecticut (Jun 2011)
    J Wylie USN Commander destroyer USS Momsen (Apr 2011)

    Naval Officers fired: (All in 2012):
    Commander A C Aber USN XO Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron 71 (July 2012)
    D Armstrong USN Commander missile destroyer USS The Sullivans (May 2012)
    M Arriola USN Commander destroyer USS Porter (Aug 2012)
    Capt A Cardoso USN Commander Training Support Center San Diego (Sep 2012)
    Capt J CoBell USN Commander Oceana Naval Air Station’s Fleet Readiness Center Mid-Atlantic (Sep 2012)
    Capt J E Darlak USN Commander frigate USS Vandegrift (Nov 2012)
    Capt D Dusek USN Commander USS Bonhomme
    Commander D Faught USN XO destroyer USS Chung-Hoon (Sep 2012)
    F Fernandez USN Commander Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 24 (Aug 2012)
    R Hartman USN Commander Amphibious dock-landing ship USS Fort McHenry (Nov 2012)
    Commander S Hakspiel USN XO Navy Drug Screening Lab San Diego (May 2012)
    J Haydel USN Commander USS San Diego (Mar 2012)
    D Hernandez USN Commander ballistic-missile submarine USS Wyoming (Feb 2012)
    L Hoey USN Commander Drug Screening Laboratory, San Diego (May 2012)
    Commander I Jimenez USN XO frigate USS Vandegrift (Nov 2012)
    D Klein USN Commander submarine USS Columbia (May 2012)
    Capt C Litchfield USN Commander assault ship USS Essex (Jun 2012)
    Capt MK Lyons USN Commander Naval Health Clinic New England (Apr 2012)
    Capt R Marin USN Commander cruiser USS Cowpens (Feb 2012)
    Capt S McDonell USN Commander Seabee reserve unit Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 14 FL (Nov 2012)
    C Parker USN Commander Fleet Logistics Support Squadron 1 (Apr 2012)
    Capt L Raimondo USN Commander Naval Health Clinic Patuxent River, MD (Jun 2012)
    Capt J Riedel USN Program manager, Littoral Combat Ship program (Jan 2012)
    S Santoski USN Commander Helicopter Mine Countermeasures Squadron 15 (Sep 2012)
    Commander KG Strudthoff USN XO Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron 25 (Sep 2012)
    S Tannahill USN Commander Navy Operational Support Center [NOSC] Nashville, TN (Sep 2012)
    M Ward USN Commander submarine USS Pittsburgh (Aug 2012)
    Capt M Wiegand USN Commander Southwest Regional Maintenance Center (Nov 2012)
    Capt T Williams USN Commander amphibious command ship USS Mount Whitney (Nov 2012)
    J Wissel USN Commander of Fleet Air Reconnaissance Squadron 1 (Feb 2012)

    Naval Officers fired: (All in 2013):
    Lt Commander L Allen USN XO submarine USS Jacksonville (Feb 2013)
    Res Capt J Bowman USN Commander Navy Operational Support Center [NOSC] Fort Dix, NJ (Mar 2013)
    Capt W Cogar USN Commander hospital ship Mercy’s medical treatment facility (Sept 2013)
    Commander S Fuller USN XO frigate USS Kauffman (Mar 2013)
    Capt S Hendricks USN Program Manager for naval enterprise IT networks (June 2013)
    Capt D Hunter USN Commander of Maritime Expeditionary Security Squadron 12 & Coastal Riverine Group 2 (Feb 2013)
    Capt E Johnson USN Chief of Military Entrance Processing Command at Great Lakes Naval Training Center, IL (2013)
    Capt D Jones USN Commander Naval Air Facility El Centro, CA (July 2013)
    Capt K Knoop USN Commander hospital ship Comfort’s medical treatment facility (Aug 2013)
    Lt Commander J O’Neill USN Commander Operational Support Center Rock Island, IL (Mar 2013)
    Commander A Maestas USN XO Beachmaster Unit 1 (May 2013)
    L Molina USN Commander submarine USS Pasadena (Jan 2013)
    Commander J Pickens USN XO frigate USS Gary (Feb 2013)
    Lt Commander M Rice USN Commander Mine Countermeasures ship USS Guardian (Apr 2013)
    M Runkle USN Commander of Mobile Diving and Salvage Unit 2 (May 2013)
    Commander J Stapleton USN XO Patrol Squadron 4 in Hawaii (Mar 2013)
    N Sukols USN Commander submarine USS Jacksonville (Feb 2013)
    Lt. D Tyler USN XO Mine Countermeasures ship USS Guardian (Apr 2013)
    E White USN Commander Strike Fighter Squadron 106 (Aug 2013)
    Capt J Winter USN Commander of Carrier Air Wing 17 (Sept 2013)
    T Winter USN Commander of submarine USS Montpelier (Jan 2013)
    C Wofford USN Commander frigate USS Kauffman (Feb 2013)

    No – WE NEED OBAMA OUT! HOLDER OUT! JANET NEAPOLITANO AND PANETTA AND HILLARY CLINTON – ALL OF THEM CHARGED WITH HIGH TREASON AND SENTENCED

  • Larry Wendt

    Another incident involved a Squadron Commander whose wife’s Cadillac got rear ended downtown a few miles off the base. The wife got blamed for the accident because she was black and the person who ran into the back of her car was white. The Commander was asked to just let it go. He refused and was very upset about it. He was forced to retire. Again, I have first hand knowledge of that incident, I was there and I personally knew the commander.

  • Larry Wendt

    D. Bishop. What are you talking about??? You are seriously DERANGED.
    Whats wrong with our Commander In Cheif ?? If you knew anything about American history and politics, you would know that our Commander In Chief was born in Hawaii. Bigger MORONS than you have brought this up and beat it to death. So, please, at least try to be original and find something else to complain about !!!!!!!

    • D. Bishop

      Hey MORON, I’m talking about his records being sealed – no history of his life in America BEFORE politics, etc.

      And no – there is plenty to complain about Obama – you obviously didn’t read anything about hundreds of men (and women) in the military whose lives have been – and are being destroyed –

      Instead, you focus on a comment you took out of context about your apparent savior.

      TAKE THE BLINDERS OFF AND WAKE UP

  • Ron S

    Why isn’t this Admin. out sourcing this?

  • Tholzel

    The problem is the rating system is completely broken. Test scores alone decide if you advance of remain behind. Nothing else counts. And you MUST get 100 or you are passed by. What a great system. I wonder how that would work with combat officers?

  • ElizabethCRowell

    The Air Force cannot afford to eliminate all of their corporate knowledge because some junior officers decided to game the system and compromise their integrity. http://ll2.de/2/CRB/

    • Gary Church

      I have seen that used too many times before. Better to start from scratch than not get rid of the people responsible. And the commanders are responsible. That’s the way the ball bounces; it is not like they are not replaceable. The military is made up of expendables- all of us who were in realize this. We keep our Einsteins and brain surgeons away from the rifle range for a reason.

  • mwood

    thank you i was beginning to think liberal morality had infected the air force

  • D. Bishop

    Well, well – I see my post was totally sanitized and erased – which means somebody in this e-paper didn’t dig what I had to say … So much for “Freedom of Speech and the Press” – which is what you in uniform have served and protected this great Nation for.

    HERE IS MY RE-POST – Enjoy it while it stays up – which won’t be long, I take it. …and you filters take note – this has been spread all over the internet by me today – and the alternative media – so the cat’s out of the bag!!

    Responding to those who feel this is on the level and there is no agenda here – I seriously beg to differ.

    COPY AND PASTE THIS POST AND THEN VERIFY – ONCE SATISFIED AND VERIFIED, EMAIL THIS AND SPREAD THE MESSAGE – AND LET’S CAMPAIGN TO GET OUR OFFICERS EXONERATED TO WHOM IT IS DUE

    The Re-Post:

    NO AGENDA? … Scrapping a commander for trumped up charges – illegal gambling chips? While NO one even is allowed to be investigated for Benghazi? (a cover-up) Fast & Furious? (2A attack) And on and on!

    And under the worst Commander-in-Chief in our Nation’s history .. Where did he even come from before Congress? What other President had all their records sealed?

    Maybe SOME of these military officers were legitimately fired – to make it not too obvious, BUT A HELLUVA LOT OF FINE OFFICERS ARE BEING PURGED my friends!

    There IS a purge in progress and war has been declared on veterans – Veterans have been declared “LIKELY DOMESTIC TERRORISTS” by Janet N. (AKA Big Sis) and others – Hillary Clinton HATES men (and women) in uniform (and especially LEOs) As SHE said after Americans died at Benghazi, “WHO CARES?”

    Veterans are being disappeared …. and disarmed …. and suicided … and taken out of their homes and being forcefully committed. Why??? Who wants them out of the way? For what reason? …

    This is an ongoing purge of scores of FINE OFFICERS that would even make Stalin uneasy. It should do the same to you!

    Have you never put puzzles together? HIGHLY DECORATED COMMANDERS – IN CHARGE OF NUKES – fired for counterfeit poker chips? REALLY?

    LISTEN to some of the military whistle blowers themselves.

    2013 – “In an unprecedented action, 17 USAF officers were stripped of their authority to control and launch nuclear missiles.”

    2013 – 11 Oct “Major General M Carey was fired from his job as Commander of the 20th Air Force. The role is responsible for three wings of intercontinental missiles, a total of 450 missiles at three different US bases. He has served for 35 years …, with numerous awards” for “loss of trust”.

    2013 9 Oct “President Obama himself fired the Navy head of nuclear weapons, …. Navy Vice Admiral Tim Giardina, second-in-charge at US Strategic Command, was fired by the President … due to use of counterfeit poker chips”

    “The RARE FIRINGS of military nuclear chiefs in which several more preceded them – CAME FOLLOWING THE HIGH LEVEL MILITARY LEAK regarding the SECRET AND UNSIGNED nuclear weapons transfer from Dyess AFB to South Carolina. Disturbingly, the high level suspensions from top generals within the military establishment are not the only red flags to follow the leaked report.”

    SC Sen Lindsey Graham went on record only hours after this report saying ” A NUCLEAR ATTACK COULD COME TO SOUTH CAROLINA in the event we didn’t invade Syria” and that “NUCLEAR WEAPONS in the hands of terrorists could result IN A BOMB COMING TO CHARLESTON HARBOR”

    OK — So we have nukes SMUGGLED out of Dyess AFB (where none officially are) – TO SOUTH CAROLINA – it’s “Leaked by a high military source” and virtually the same day SC Sen Graham says “If we don’t invade Syria a nuke can come to SC” because he doesn’t know the “Story” was leaked.

    THEN TWO DAYS LATER the top two nuke commanders get axed- one highly decorated- FOR COUNTERFEIT POKER CHIPS – COME ON!

    And Obama JUST SAID in the G8 summit – he doesn’t fear the Russians (which he OUGHT to) – he fears “A NUKE GOING OFF IN MANHATTAN”

    But then he told Putin just before the 2012 election, “WHEN I’M RE-ELECTED THAT’LL BE EASIER TO DO” … Do what???

    Former Navy SEAL Ben Smith warned us that Obama is asking top military brass if they would be comfortable disarming U.S. citizens, A LITMUS TEST that includes gauging whether they would order NCOs to fire on Americans. “Going back to the beginning of this administration, I’ve had friends within the community talking about how they were brought in and questioned … ‘DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE DISARMING AMERICAN CITIZENS?”

    Smith added that the litmus test was related to the recent firing of Navy Vice Adm. Giardina and Maj. Gen. Carey.

    In January, 2009 Nobel Peace Prize nominee Jim Garrow claimed he was told by top military that the Obama administration’s “litmus test” for new military leaders is whether or not they will fire on U.S. citizens.

    Also under Democratic leadership. hundreds of Marines at 29 Palms, California were given a survey which asked Marines if they would “FIRE UPON US CITIZENS WHO RESIST CONFISCATION OF FIREARMS BANNED BY THE US GOV”

    Just Google “NO MORE HESITATION TARGETS” [bet you never knew about that!] YOU REALLY HAVE TO SEE THIS … and note the similarity of the original targets … all old, young, pregnant or very vulnerable

    AND THEY’RE ALL WHITE… So Why would FEMA and DHS order these for themselves, the government , military and law enforcement?

    Why didn’t this make the mainstream news? Why did the company take them off the website so fast – and REFUSE TO SELL THEM TO CIVILIANS (I tried) and now deny ever having them – selling another more benign form with a few other ethnic people thrown in?

    When things like this are done in secret – and then denied – THERE IS AN AGENDA IN PLAY my friends.

    While you’re checking this out to prove me wrong – Read the newest “Internment ans Resettlement Operations” manual – 2010 edition I think you will find some interesting diagrams .

    BTW – I know of a person who trucked in a truckload of food with a long shelf life to an underground base in Colorado – The man was upset, because he said there was a line of other trucks as long as he could see ahead (and behind) him going into that base.

    And .. another acquaintance mentioned that a relative in Tennessee – a retired welder – was approached to do some contracted welding for a contractor for the government. This I have not yet verified, but I have heard of this from others so I believe it because it echos what I have been hearing from others a while back.

    The man – upon learning that they wanted him to weld shackles in some train cars turned the job down.

    And it might be interesting to note that in some of the FEMA camps that supposedly did not exist – but do – and they are operational with small skeleton staffs – but no prisoners (yet) have rail spurs that lead into them.

    And if you check out the diagrams in the Internment and Resettlement Operations Manual – which is classed “Restricted,” it shows some diagrams of guard placement for prisoners on train cars — in the 2010 edition!

    Add out domestic drones – NDAA – allowances to “take out” American citizens – huge purchases of hollow point [illegal for military use] ammo and armored vehicles for “domestic training” …

    Spying and surveillance that is off the charts – NSA data mining of U.S. civilians – plans for RFID chipping of military personnel -

    No agenda huh?

    And what about the strange coincidental deaths and “accidents” of a lot of NAVY SEALS who were in the “Bin Laden raid” or close to it” along with the now revealed fake “live footage” of Obama, Clinton and others supposedly watching the operation while it happened..

    And the all time high level of supposed suicides of military personnel

    INCLUDING THE RECENT “SUICIDE” OF THE TOP NAVY SEAL COMMANDER IN AFGHANISTAN? “Whiskey Tango Foxtrot”???

    His name was Commander. Job W. Price, aged 42, and he died of a gunshot wound to the head. In December 2012 – when a LOT of other Navy officers were purged (see following list)

    And you wonder why so many veterans are being disarmed now? I personally know of two who have been disarmed recently

    And troops are being ORDERED to take certain drugs to “calm them” in combat AOs — only these drugs NOW QUALIFY – SUCH THAT – THEY WILL NO LONGER BE ALLOWED TO POSSESS WEAPONS UPON RETURNING HOME.

    Thanks for your service boys and girls — for putting your a$$es on the line! Our government thanks you from the bottom of its heart..

    Retired US Army Maj Gen Paul Vallely reports, “Obama is intentionally weakening and gutting our military,” …“anyone who disagrees or speaks out is being purged.”

    HERE’S A SMATTERING OF THOSE PURGED – CONCENTRATING MOSTLY ON THE NAVY -

    Very Recent Commanding Generals fired
    Gen John R. Allen USMC Commander International Security Assistance Force [ISAF] (Nov 2012)
    Maj Gen R Baker US Army Commander of Combined Joint Task Force Horn in Africa (Apr 2013)
    Maj Gen M Carey USAF Commander of 20th USAF in charge of 9,600 people and 450 ICBMs (Oct 2013)
    Col J Christmas USMC Commander 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit & Commander Special-Purpose Marine Air-Ground Task Force Crisis Response Unit (Jul 2013)
    Maj Genl P Fuller US Army Commander in Afghanistan (May 2011)
    Maj Gen C Gurganus USMC Regional Commander of SW and I Marine Expeditionary Force in Afghanistan (Oct 2013)
    Gen C F Ham UArmy African Command (Oct 2013)
    Lt Gen D Huntoon Jr. US Army 58th Superintendent of USMA at West Point (2013)
    Command Sgt Maj D B Jordan US Army 143rd Expeditionary Sustainment Command (suspended Oct 2013)
    Gen J Mattis USMC Chief of CentCom (May 2013)
    Col D Margolin USMC in charge of Quantico’s Security Battalion (Oct 2013)
    Gen S McChrystal US Army Commander Afghanistan (Jun 2010)
    Gen D McKiernan US Army Commander Afghanistan (2009)
    Gen D Petraeus Director of CIA from September 2011 to November 2012 & U.S. Army Commander International Security Assistance Force [ISAF] and Commander U.S. Forces Afghanistan [USFOR-A] (Nov 2012)
    Brig Gen B Roberts US Army Commander 2nd Brigade (May 2013)
    Maj Gen G A Sturdevant USMC Director of Strategic Planning and Policy for USPAC & Commander of Aviation Wing at Camp Bastion, Afghanistan (Sept 2013)
    Col E Tilley US Army Commander of Garrison Japan (Nov 2013)
    Brig Gen B Wampler US Army Commanding General of 143rd Expeditionary Sustainment Command of the 1st Theater Sustainment Command [TSC] (suspended Oct 2013)

    Vwet Recent Commanding Admirals fired
    Rr Adml C Gaouette USN Commander John C. Stennis Carrier Strike Group Three (Oct 2012)
    Vice Adml T Giardina (demoted & re-assigned) USN Deputy Commander of US Strategic Command, Commander of Submarine Group Trident, Submarine Group 9 and Submarine Group 10 (Oct 2013)

    Naval Officers fired: (All in 2011)
    Capt D Geisler USN Commander Task Force 53 in Bahrain (Oct 2011)
    Commander L Bell USN Commander Naval Support Activity Saratoga Springs, NY (Aug 2011)
    Lt Commander K Boenisch XO amphibious transport dock Ponce (Apr 2011)
    N Borchers USN Commander destroyer USS Stout (Mar 2011)
    Rt Brown USN Commander Beachmaster Unit 2 Fort Story, VA (Aug 2011)
    Commander A Crowe USN XO Navy Region Center Singapore (Apr 2011)
    Capt R Gamberg XO carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (Jun 2011)
    Capt Guinn USN Commander Navy Legal Service office Japan (Feb 2011)
    K Harms USN Commander Strike Fighter Squadron 137 aboard aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln (Mar 2011)
    Lt Commander M Holguin USN Commander mine countermeasures USS Fearless (Oct 2011)
    Capt O Honors USN Commander aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (Jan 2011)
    Capt D Hornbeck USN Commander Destroyer Squadron 1 San Diego (Apr 2011)
    Rr Adml R Horton USN Commander Logistics Group, Western Pacific (Mar 2011)
    E Jones USN Commander amphibious transport dock Ponce (Apr 2011)
    R Jones USN XO amphibious transport dock Green Bay (Jul 2011)
    J Jackson USN Commander Electronic Attack Squadron 134, deployed aboard carrier USS Carl Vinson (Dec 2011)
    Capt E Merrill USN Commander submarine USS Emory S. Land (Jul 2011)
    Capt W Mosk USN Commander Naval Station Rota, USN Commander Naval Activities Spain (Apr 2011)
    T Murphy USN Commander Electronic Attack Squadron 129 at Naval Air Station Whidbey Island, WA (Apr 2011)
    J Nosse USN Commander ballistic-missile submarine USS Kentucky (Oct 2011)
    M Olson USN Commander destroyer USS The Sullivans FL (Sep 2011)
    Commander J Pethel USN XO amphibious transport dock New York (Dec 2011)
    K Pugh USN Commander Electronic Attack Squadron 141 Whidbey Island, WA (Jul 2011)
    J Strength USN Commander of Navy Recruiting District Nashville, TN (Jul 2011)
    Capt G Thomas USN Commander Norfolk Naval Shipyard (May 2011)
    M Varney USN Commander attack submarine USS Connecticut (Jun 2011)
    J Wylie USN Commander destroyer USS Momsen (Apr 2011)

    Naval Officers fired: (All in 2012):
    Commander A C Aber USN XO Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron 71 (July 2012)
    D Armstrong USN Commander missile destroyer USS The Sullivans (May 2012)
    M Arriola USN Commander destroyer USS Porter (Aug 2012)
    Capt A Cardoso USN Commander Training Support Center San Diego (Sep 2012)
    Capt J CoBell USN Commander Oceana Naval Air Station’s Fleet Readiness Center Mid-Atlantic (Sep 2012)
    Capt J E Darlak USN Commander frigate USS Vandegrift (Nov 2012)
    Capt D Dusek USN Commander USS Bonhomme
    Commander D Faught USN XO destroyer USS Chung-Hoon (Sep 2012)
    F Fernandez USN Commander Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 24 (Aug 2012)
    R Hartman USN Commander Amphibious dock-landing ship USS Fort McHenry (Nov 2012)
    Commander S Hakspiel USN XO Navy Drug Screening Lab San Diego (May 2012)
    J Haydel USN Commander USS San Diego (Mar 2012)
    D Hernandez USN Commander ballistic-missile submarine USS Wyoming (Feb 2012)
    L Hoey USN Commander Drug Screening Laboratory, San Diego (May 2012)
    Commander I Jimenez USN XO frigate USS Vandegrift (Nov 2012)
    D Klein USN Commander submarine USS Columbia (May 2012)
    Capt C Litchfield USN Commander assault ship USS Essex (Jun 2012)
    Capt MK Lyons USN Commander Naval Health Clinic New England (Apr 2012)
    Capt R Marin USN Commander cruiser USS Cowpens (Feb 2012)
    Capt S McDonell USN Commander Seabee reserve unit Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 14 FL (Nov 2012)
    C Parker USN Commander Fleet Logistics Support Squadron 1 (Apr 2012)
    Capt L Raimondo USN Commander Naval Health Clinic Patuxent River, MD (Jun 2012)
    Capt J Riedel USN Program manager, Littoral Combat Ship program (Jan 2012)
    S Santoski USN Commander Helicopter Mine Countermeasures Squadron 15 (Sep 2012)
    Commander KG Strudthoff USN XO Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron 25 (Sep 2012)
    S Tannahill USN Commander Navy Operational Support Center [NOSC] Nashville, TN (Sep 2012)
    M Ward USN Commander submarine USS Pittsburgh (Aug 2012)
    Capt M Wiegand USN Commander Southwest Regional Maintenance Center (Nov 2012)
    Capt T Williams USN Commander amphibious command ship USS Mount Whitney (Nov 2012)
    J Wissel USN Commander of Fleet Air Reconnaissance Squadron 1 (Feb 2012)

    Naval Officers fired: (All in 2013):
    Lt Commander L Allen USN XO submarine USS Jacksonville (Feb 2013)
    Res Capt J Bowman USN Commander Navy Operational Support Center [NOSC] Fort Dix, NJ (Mar 2013)
    Capt W Cogar USN Commander hospital ship Mercy’s medical treatment facility (Sept 2013)
    Commander S Fuller USN XO frigate USS Kauffman (Mar 2013)
    Capt S Hendricks USN Program Manager for naval enterprise IT networks (June 2013)
    Capt D Hunter USN Commander of Maritime Expeditionary Security Squadron 12 & Coastal Riverine Group 2 (Feb 2013)
    Capt E Johnson USN Chief of Military Entrance Processing Command at Great Lakes Naval Training Center, IL (2013)
    Capt D Jones USN Commander Naval Air Facility El Centro, CA (July 2013)
    Capt K Knoop USN Commander hospital ship Comfort’s medical treatment facility (Aug 2013)
    Lt Commander J O’Neill USN Commander Operational Support Center Rock Island, IL (Mar 2013)
    Commander A Maestas USN XO Beachmaster Unit 1 (May 2013)
    L Molina USN Commander submarine USS Pasadena (Jan 2013)
    Commander J Pickens USN XO frigate USS Gary (Feb 2013)
    Lt Commander M Rice USN Commander Mine Countermeasures ship USS Guardian (Apr 2013)
    M Runkle USN Commander of Mobile Diving and Salvage Unit 2 (May 2013)
    Commander J Stapleton USN XO Patrol Squadron 4 in Hawaii (Mar 2013)
    N Sukols USN Commander submarine USS Jacksonville (Feb 2013)
    Lt. D Tyler USN XO Mine Countermeasures ship USS Guardian (Apr 2013)
    E White USN Commander Strike Fighter Squadron 106 (Aug 2013)
    Capt J Winter USN Commander of Carrier Air Wing 17 (Sept 2013)
    T Winter USN Commander of submarine USS Montpelier (Jan 2013)
    C Wofford USN Commander frigate USS Kauffman (Feb 2013)

    I think we owe it to our military to DEMAND ANSWERS FROM OUR CONGRESS

    Make calls – contact the press – and copy and paste and email this to every one you know.

    Check the facts for yourself. Verify.

    Then let’s get rid of the people WHO REALLY NEED TO GO – AND SAVE OUR COUNTRY!

    WE NEED OBAMA OUT! HOLDER OUT! JANET NAPOLITANO AND PANETTA AND HILLARY CLINTON – ALL OF THEM CHARGED WITH HIGH TREASON AND SENTENCED

    • majorg1000

      Yep, there was a good reason your post was (and will be again) deleted, sanitzed, purged.

      • Gary Church

        The same conspiracy theory trash just showed up in email as a fwd from a ditto head acquaintance. Pretty sad that people believe this stuff.

    • majorg1000

      Don’t spread “the Message”. It is a concoction of lies and misinformation.

    • Gary Church

      What a bunch of garbage. This is what goes in my spam folder on Yahoo; it should not be here. All lies and right wing hate mail. Total trash.

    • http://www.breakingdefense.com/ Colin Clark

      You got stuck in our filter and will note you got unstuck. A reminder to all: Personal attacks will not be tolerated. Political opinions are fine if expressed in a rational fashion. Just as in third grade, we don’t tolerate screaming, tantrums and other offensive behavior. It’s a privilege to post here, not a right. You too, Gary!

      • Gary Church

        That is not “political opinion” Colin; it is really crazy stuff. Totally nuts.
        Not good to let it stay; but it is your website.

        • Buddy Holly

          Ahaha you got called out. That’s hilarious.

  • TimothyFPhier

    The Mission as I knew it during the Cold War, no longer exists. There are no evil Commies wating to take over our nation with their 5 year plans…There isn’t even a Bear to poke. http://qr.net/rtcX

    • Majorg1000

      You cannot even come up with something of your own to say…you have to plagerize from me? How very sad for you.